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From: Roberto Fichera <kernel@tekno-soft.it>
To: mgross@unix-os.sc.intel.com
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Multithreaded coredump patch where?
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 10:24:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20021219095902.04868d90@mail.isolaweb.it> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200212181907.gBIJ7XP12936@unix-os.sc.intel.com>

At 08.13 18/12/02 -0800, mgross wrote:

>On Tuesday 17 December 2002 03:05 am, Roberto Fichera wrote:
> > >I haven't rebased the patches I posted back in June for a while now.
> > >
> > >Attached is the patch I posted for the 2.4.18 vanilla kernel.  Its a bit
> > >controversial, but it seems to work for a number of folks.  Let me know if
> > >you have any troubles re-basing it.
> >
> > Only one hunk failed on include/asm-ia64/elf.h but fixed by hand.
> > Why do you say a bit controversial ? One difference that I have
> > notice is in coredump size after your patch. However seem to be
> > working well for now. I'll try later on a SMP machine.
>
>There are 2 issues with this implementation that will likely not effect you.
>
>
>First, when dumping core of MT applications with LOTS of threads the pthread
>library signals all the threads in the  application to exit.  Sometimes
>the process that is dumping core fails to suspend other threads in the
>application before some exit.  The result of this is that for such
>applications you will not see them in the core file.
>
>You have to work at it to see this failure.  The way I reproduce this is to
>run a test application with about 555 pthread threads in it and send it a
>sig_quit.  When I look at the core file wont have all 555 threads.  SMP makes
>this effect a bit more noticeable.

This could be a problem for me. I haven't tried yet your patch with my SMP
machine but I'll try today, I hope.

>Ingo's design to fix this change the exit path for thread to wait for the
>core file to get dumped before finishing the process clean up.  I like this
>approach, I just wish I thought of it ;)

Yes seem to be a good solution.

>Second, the controversial issue is in the way my design pauses the other
>threads in the MT application.  Its not semaphore lock safe.  Although no
>instance of the following failure has been seen, it is possible with new
>kernel code.
>
>If one of the processes in the MT application is currently holding semaphore
>lock when the dumping process pauses it, AND the dumping process does any
>blocking operation that could attempt to grab this same semaphore, THEN the
>core dump will deadlock.  Boom.

This problem could be reproducible under load doing some IO (fs & net),
cpu bound process and swapping (vm IO). In this way we could have some
possibility to catch it.


>My patch is good for developers, pending the back port of Ingo's version.
>
>Do let me know how it works out for you.
>
>--mgross

Roberto Fichera. 


  reply	other threads:[~2002-12-19  9:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-12-16 17:28 Roberto Fichera
2002-12-16 21:21 ` mgross
2002-12-17 11:05   ` Roberto Fichera
2002-12-17 12:05     ` Arjan van de Ven
2002-12-17 12:51       ` Roberto Fichera
2002-12-17 12:08     ` Arjan van de Ven
2002-12-18 16:13     ` mgross
2002-12-19  9:24       ` Roberto Fichera [this message]
2002-12-17 12:14   ` Arjan van de Ven
2002-12-18 16:19     ` mgross

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