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From: Keith Owens <kaos@ocs.com.au>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: kbuild 2.5 is ready for inclusion in the 2.5 kernel
Date: Sun, 05 May 2002 20:16:29 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5015.1020593789@ocs3.intra.ocs.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 05 May 2002 02:43:04 MST." <20020505094304.GG2392@matchmail.com>

On Sun, 5 May 2002 02:43:04 -0700, 
Mike Fedyk <mfedyk@matchmail.com> wrote:
>On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 04:17:36PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
>> The kernel release isnt useful info. Many interfaces are stable across
>> multiple kernels, many interface issues depend on things other than kernel
>> version. Lots of people apply patches and don't change the base kernel
>> version - in fact its hard to do so
>
>Changing one line in Makefile is hard?  I do that every time I patch my
>kernels.  It lets me track easily what kernels I have installed just by `ls
>/boot`, and the name shows up in my kernel .deb. :)

Not hard, just expensive.  From kbuild 2.5.

# FIXME: Current kernel source includes linux/version.h, mainly to get
# KERNEL_VERSION().  version.h also includes UTS_RELEASE which changes every
# time the kernel identifiers change.  The presence of UTS_RELEASE in version.h
# causes lots of unnecessary recompilations, very few places actually want
# UTS_RELEASE.  The new makefile generates separate linux/version.h and
# linux/uts_release.h, with version.h including utsname.h to avoid compilation
# errors.  Find all the source code that needs just UTS_RELEASE and change it to
# include uts_release.h, then remove #include <linux/uts_release.h> from the
# commands below.  KAO

There are less than 10 places in the kernel that really need
UTS_RELEASE.  Alas it is defined in version.h which is included by 99%
of the code, either directly or indirectly.  Change the top level
Makefile and 99% of the kernel gets recompiled.

I have deliberately not fixed this problem in kbuild 2.4.  The full
dependency chain goes Makefile -> version.h -> everything else.
Removing the dependency of Makefile -> version.h looks like a good
idea, but it exposes potential bugs that are currently hidden by the
extra recompiles.

Remove that dependency and other changes to Makefile such as target
changes will not cause rebuilds when they should.  kbuild 2.4 does not
have a complete list of dependencies on the top level Makefile, it
works by accident because of the chain Makefile -> version.h -> 99% of
the kernel.

All fixed in kbuild 2.5, of course.


  reply	other threads:[~2002-05-05 10:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-05-01 14:23 Keith Owens
2002-05-02 15:17 ` Denis Vlasenko
2002-05-02 10:38   ` tomas szepe
2002-05-02 12:21     ` Keith Owens
2002-05-02 12:49       ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-02 14:26         ` Alan Cox
2002-05-02 13:32           ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-02 14:54             ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-05-02 15:17             ` Alan Cox
2002-05-05  9:43               ` Mike Fedyk
2002-05-05 10:16                 ` Keith Owens [this message]
2002-05-02 15:21             ` Arjan van de Ven
2002-05-02 15:59               ` Richard Gooch
2002-05-02 15:36                 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-02 17:15                   ` Alan Cox
2002-05-02 16:30                     ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-02 18:20                       ` Alan Cox
2002-05-02 17:25                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2002-05-02 16:53                     ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-02 17:48                       ` David S. Miller
2002-05-02 17:42                         ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-02 19:11                           ` Alan Cox
2002-05-02 18:22                             ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-02 18:49                             ` David S. Miller
2002-05-02 18:33                       ` Alan Cox
2002-05-02 14:24       ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-05-02 15:18         ` David Woodhouse
2002-05-02 15:40           ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-05-02 23:40             ` Keith Owens
2002-05-02 23:25               ` Martin Dalecki
2002-05-03 14:48               ` Kai Germaschewski
2002-05-03 15:45                 ` Keith Owens
2002-05-02 15:19         ` Alan Cox
2002-05-02 22:57           ` Pavel Machek
2002-05-03  8:33             ` Vikram
2002-05-03 12:07               ` Keith Owens
2002-05-18  1:14                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-18  1:33                   ` Dave Jones
2002-05-18  3:06                     ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-05-18 12:28                     ` [PATCH] move jiffies from sched.h to it's own jiffies.h Tim Schmielau
2002-05-19 22:33                       ` Tim Schmielau
2002-05-20  2:32                       ` Rusty Russell
2002-05-18  2:12                   ` kbuild 2.5 is ready for inclusion in the 2.5 kernel Gerhard Mack
2002-05-18  2:13                   ` Keith Owens
2002-05-18  2:30                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-05-20  2:38                     ` Miles Bader
2002-05-02 21:34       ` tomas szepe
2002-05-02 21:42         ` Dave Jones
2002-05-03  1:19           ` John Covici
2002-05-03  1:33             ` Keith Owens
2002-05-03  1:39               ` tomas szepe
2002-05-03  2:31             ` Alexander Viro
2002-05-03  3:21               ` Davide Libenzi
2002-05-02 21:42         ` Alexander Viro
2002-05-02 23:25           ` tomas szepe
2002-05-03 21:05           ` Mark H. Wood
2002-05-04 13:58             ` Kurt Wall
2002-05-06  1:54             ` Mike Fedyk
2002-05-02 22:54 ` Pavel Machek
2002-05-03  9:00   ` Keith Owens
2002-05-03  4:17 ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-05-03  5:02   ` Keith Owens
2002-05-03  6:32     ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-05-03 10:06     ` Gerd Knorr
2002-05-03 10:42       ` Keith Owens
2002-05-03 12:05         ` Gerd Knorr
2002-05-03 13:31           ` Keith Owens
2002-05-04  6:44         ` Paul Mackerras
2002-05-04  8:03           ` Paul Mackerras
2002-05-06  0:42             ` Mike Fedyk
2002-05-06  4:07               ` Paul Mackerras
2002-05-04  9:03           ` Keith Owens
2002-05-04  9:38             ` Russell King
2002-05-04 10:33             ` Paul Mackerras
2002-05-04 11:49               ` Keith Owens
2002-05-06  8:40                 ` Gerd Knorr
2002-05-07  4:14                   ` Keith Owens
2002-05-04 15:30               ` Richard Gooch
2002-05-05 17:23 ` Urban Widmark
2002-05-05 23:36   ` Keith Owens
2002-05-06 11:33     ` Urban Widmark
2002-05-06 23:54       ` Keith Owens
2002-05-06 10:54 ` Alex Riesen
2002-05-08  2:54   ` Keith Owens
2002-05-08 17:25     ` Alex Riesen
2002-05-09  0:10       ` Keith Owens
2002-05-09  0:55         ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-05-09  1:44           ` Keith Owens
2002-05-05 16:42 Dan Kegel
2002-05-05 23:44 ` Keith Owens
2002-05-06  0:02   ` Dan Kegel
2002-05-06  0:40     ` Keith Owens
2002-05-06 15:38 ` Alan Cox
2002-05-06 15:33   ` Tomas Szepe
     [not found] <cs.lists.linux-kernel/18740.1020729269@ocs3.intra.ocs.com.au>
2002-05-07 23:48 ` Ion Badulescu
2002-05-08  0:10   ` Keith Owens
2002-05-08  0:37     ` Alan Cox
2002-05-08  0:34       ` Keith Owens

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