From: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>
To: <mjw@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
<peterz@infradead.org>, <mtosatti@redhat.com>, <mingo@redhat.com>,
<avi@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 0/3] Add guest cpu_entitlement reporting
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 19:36:19 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <50396173.4020005@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1345821066.4950.6.camel@lambeau>
On 08/24/2012 11:11 AM, Michael Wolf wrote:
> On Fri, 2012-08-24 at 08:53 +0400, Glauber Costa wrote:
>> On 08/24/2012 03:14 AM, Michael Wolf wrote:
>>> This is an RFC regarding the reporting of stealtime. In the case of
>>> where you have a system that is running with partial processors such as
>>> KVM the user may see steal time being reported in accounting tools such
>>> as top or vmstat. This can cause confusion for the end user. To
>>> ease the confusion this patch set adds a sysctl interface to set the
>>> cpu entitlement. This is the percentage of cpu that the guest system is
>>> expected to receive. As long as the steal time is within its expected
>>> range it will show up as 0 in /proc/stat. The user will then see in the
>>> accounting tools that they are getting a full utilization of the cpu
>>> resources assigned to them.
>>>
>>
>> And how is such a knob not confusing?
>>
>> Steal time is pretty well defined in meaning and is shown in top for
>> ages. I really don't see the point for this.
>
> Currently you can see the steal time but you have no way of knowing if
> the cpu utilization you are seeing on the guest is the expected amount.
> I decided on making it a knob because a guest could be migrated to
> another system and it's entitlement could change because of hardware or
> load differences. It could simply be a /proc file and report the
> current entitlement if needed. As things are currently implemented I
> don't see how someone knows if the guest is running as expected or
> whether there is a problem.
>
Turning off steal time display won't get even close to displaying the
information you want. What you probably want is a guest-visible way to
say how many miliseconds you are expected to run each second. Right?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-08-25 23:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-08-23 23:14 Michael Wolf
2012-08-23 23:14 ` [PATCH RFC 1/3] Add a sysctl interface to control and report the cpu entitlement setting Michael Wolf
2012-08-23 23:14 ` [PATCH RFC 2/3] Add a hypercall to retrieve the cpu entitlement value from the host Michael Wolf
2012-08-23 23:14 ` [PATCH RFC 3/3] Modify the amount of stealtime that the kernel reports via the /proc interface Michael Wolf
2012-08-24 4:53 ` [PATCH RFC 0/3] Add guest cpu_entitlement reporting Glauber Costa
2012-08-24 15:11 ` Michael Wolf
2012-08-25 23:36 ` Glauber Costa [this message]
2012-08-27 15:50 ` Michael Wolf
2012-08-27 18:50 ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-27 20:19 ` Michael Wolf
2012-08-27 20:51 ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-27 18:55 ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-27 20:23 ` Michael Wolf
2012-08-27 20:31 ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-27 21:27 ` Michael Wolf
2012-08-27 21:41 ` Glauber Costa
2012-08-27 21:53 ` Michael Wolf
2012-08-27 21:52 ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-28 16:01 ` Anthony Liguori
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