From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@openvz.org>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
aarcange@redhat.com, ak@linux.intel.com,
Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>,
Stefani Seibold <stefani@seibold.net>,
x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, criu@openvz.org,
mingo@redhat.com, john.stultz@linaro.org, tglx@linutronix.de
Subject: Re: [CRIU] [PATCH] Add VDSO time function support for x86 32-bit kernel
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 13:21:48 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <50CB986C.20306@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121214212023.GF6582@moon>
On 12/14/2012 01:20 PM, Cyrill Gorcunov wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 01:08:35PM -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>> On 12/14/2012 12:12 PM, Cyrill Gorcunov wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> The real issue is that happens if the process is checkpointed while
>>>> inside the vdso and now eip/rip or a stack frame points into the vdso.
>>>> This is not impossible or even unlikely, especially on 32 bits it is
>>>> downright likely.
>>>
>>> I fear if there are stacked ip which point to vdso -- we simply won't
>>> be able to restore properly if vdso internal format changed significantly
>>> between kernel versions. (At moment we restore vdso exactly at same position
>>> it was on checkpoint stage with same content, iirc).
>>>
>>
>> I don't think there is a way around that. It is completely unreasonable
>> to say that the vdso cannot change between kernel versions, for obvious
>> reasons. It's worse than "significantly"... changing even one
>> instruction makes it plausible your eip/rip will point into the middle
>> of an instruction.
>
> Well, one idea was to try to escape dumping when a dumpee inside vdso area
> and wait until it leaves this zone, then proceed dumping. Then, if vdso is
> changed (say some new instructions were added) we zap original prologues
> with jmp to new symbols from fresh vdso provided us by a kernel. I'm not
> really sure if this would help us much but just saying (I must admit I
> didn't looked yet into vdso implementation details, so sorry if it sounds
> stupid).
>
Well, if the vdso contains a system call you may be waiting indefinitely.
-hpa
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-12-14 21:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-12-12 20:19 stefani
2012-12-12 23:34 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-13 5:53 ` Stefani Seibold
2012-12-13 6:10 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-13 6:14 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-13 6:17 ` Stefani Seibold
2012-12-13 6:47 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-13 7:17 ` Stefani Seibold
2012-12-13 19:32 ` Andy Lutomirski
2012-12-14 0:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-14 0:20 ` Andy Lutomirski
2012-12-14 0:36 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-14 1:32 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-14 1:42 ` Andy Lutomirski
2012-12-14 1:49 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-14 2:11 ` Andy Lutomirski
2012-12-14 2:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-14 2:20 ` Andy Lutomirski
2012-12-14 8:34 ` [CRIU] " Pavel Emelyanov
2012-12-14 18:35 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-14 18:44 ` Andy Lutomirski
2012-12-14 18:47 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-14 20:12 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-12-14 21:08 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-14 21:20 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-12-14 21:21 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2012-12-14 21:27 ` Andy Lutomirski
2012-12-14 22:00 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-14 22:25 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-12-14 22:27 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-14 22:43 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-12-14 22:48 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-14 23:48 ` John Stultz
2012-12-14 23:55 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-17 9:05 ` Pavel Emelyanov
[not found] ` <fb2e871b-3e2a-4e96-9eb9-cb2dd4f66eaa@email.android! .com>
2012-12-17 15:21 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-17 18:56 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2012-12-17 18:57 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-14 22:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-14 23:09 ` Stefani Seibold
2012-12-14 23:29 ` H. Peter Anvin
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