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From: Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@intel.com>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Aaron Lu <aaron.lwe@gmail.com>,
	Shane Huang <shane.huang@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 0/4] block layer runtime pm
Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2013 15:33:23 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50EBCBC3.4070606@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1301071200420.1658-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>

On 01/08/2013 01:11 AM, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Jan 2013, Aaron Lu wrote:
> 
>> In August 2010, Jens and Alan discussed about "Runtime PM and the block
>> layer". http://marc.info/?t=128259108400001&r=1&w=2
>> And then Alan has given a detailed implementation guide:
>> http://marc.info/?l=linux-scsi&m=133727953625963&w=2
>>
>> To test:
>> # ls -l /sys/block/sda
>> /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1f.2/ata1/host0/target0:0:0/0:0:0:0/block/sda
>>
>> # echo 10000 > /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1f.2/ata1/host0/target0:0:0/0:0:0:0/power/autosuspend_delay_ms
>> # echo auto > /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1f.2/ata1/host0/target0:0:0/0:0:0:0/power/control
>> Then you'll see sda is suspended after 10secs idle.
>>
>> [ 1767.680192] sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Synchronizing SCSI cache
>> [ 1767.680317] sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Stopping disk
>>
>> And if you do some IO, it will resume immediately.
>> [ 1791.052438] sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Starting disk
>>
>> For test, I often set the autosuspend time to 1 second. If you are using
>> a GUI, the 10 seconds delay may be too long that the disk can not enter
>> runtime suspended state.
>>
>> Note that sd's runtime suspend callback will dump some kernel messages
>> and the syslog daemon will write kernel message to /var/log/messages,
>> making the disk instantly resume after suspended. So for test, the
>> syslog daemon should better be temporarily stopped.
>>
>> v6:
>> Take over from Lin Ming.
>>
>> - Instead of put the device into autosuspend state in
>>   blk_post_runtime_suspend, do it when the last request is finished.
>>   This can also solve the problem illustrated below:
>>
>>       thread A				      thread B
>> |suspend timer expired			|
>> |  ... ...				|a new request comes in,
>> |  ... ...				|blk_pm_add_request
>> |  ... ...				|skip request_resume due to
>> |  ... ...				|q->status is still RPM_ACTIVE
>> |  rpm_suspend				|  ... ...
>> |    scsi_runtime_suspend		|  ... ...
>> |      blk_pre_runtime_suspend		|  ... ...
>> |      return -EBUSY due to nr_pending	|  ... ...
>> |  rpm_suspend done			|  ... ...
>> |					|    blk_pm_put_request, mark last busy
>>
>> But no more trigger point, and the device will stay at RPM_ACTIVE state.
>> Run pm_runtime_autosuspend after the last request is finished solved
>> this problem.
> 
> This doesn't look like the best solution, because it involves adding a 
> nontrivial routine (pm_runtime_autosuspend) to a hot path.

Oh right, I didn't realize this. Thanks for pointing this out.

> 
> How about this instead?  When blk_pre_runtime_suspend returns -EBUSY,
> have it do a mark-last-busy.  Then rpm_suspend will automatically
> reschedule the autosuspend for later.

Yes, this is better.

> 
>> - Requests which have the REQ_PM flag should not involve nr_pending
>>   counting, or we may lose the condition to resume the device:
>>   Suppose queue is active and nr_pending is 0. Then a REQ_PM request
>>   comes and nr_pending will be increased to 1, but since the request has
>>   REQ_PM flag, it will not cause resume. Before it is finished, a normal
>>   request comes in, and since nr_pending is 1 now, it will not trigger
>>   the resume of the device either. Bug.
>>
>> - Do not quiesce the device in scsi bus level runtime suspend callback.
>>   Since the only reason the device is to be runtime suspended is due to
>>   no more requests pending for it, quiesce it is pointless.
>>
>> - Remove scsi_autopm_* from sd_check_events as we are request driven.
>>
>> - Call blk_pm_runtime_init in scsi_sysfs_initialize_dev, so that we do
>>   not need to check queue's device in blk_pm_add/put_request.
> 
> I think you still need to have that check.  After all, the block layer 
> has other users besides the SCSI stack, and those users don't call 
> blk_pm_runtime_init.

Right...

So this also reminds me that as long as CONFIG_PM_RUNTIME is selected,
the blk_pm_add/put/peek_request functions will be in the block IO path.
Shall we introduce a new config option to selectively build block
runtime PM functionality? something like CONFIG_BLK_PM_RUNTIME perhaps?

Just some condition checks in those functions, not sure if it is worth a
new config though. Please suggest, thanks.

> 
>> - Do not mark last busy and initiate an autosuspend for the device in
>>   blk_pm_runtime_init function.
>>
>> - Do not mark last busy and initiate an autosuspend for the device in
>>   block_post_runtime_resume, as when the request that triggered the
>>   resume finished, the blk_pm_put_request will mark last busy and
>>   initiate an autosuspend.
> 
> If you make the change that I recommended above then this is still 
> necessary.

Yes, they are needed. Thanks!

-Aaron


  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-08  7:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-06  8:41 Aaron Lu
2013-01-06  8:41 ` [PATCH v6 1/4] block: add a flag to identify PM request Aaron Lu
2013-01-06  8:41 ` [PATCH v6 2/4] block: add runtime pm helpers Aaron Lu
2013-01-07 17:15   ` Alan Stern
2013-01-06  8:41 ` [PATCH v6 3/4] block: implement runtime pm strategy Aaron Lu
2013-01-07 17:21   ` Alan Stern
2013-01-08  7:36     ` Aaron Lu
2013-01-08 15:22       ` Alan Stern
2013-01-14  3:03         ` Aaron Lu
2013-01-14 18:13           ` Alan Stern
2013-01-06  8:41 ` [PATCH v6 4/4] sd: change to auto suspend mode Aaron Lu
2013-01-07  9:19   ` Oliver Neukum
2013-01-07  9:31     ` Aaron Lu
2013-01-07 17:11 ` [PATCH v6 0/4] block layer runtime pm Alan Stern
2013-01-08  7:33   ` Aaron Lu [this message]
2013-01-08 15:27     ` Alan Stern
2013-01-14  3:14       ` Aaron Lu
2013-01-14 15:41         ` Alan Stern

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