From: Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@oss.qualcomm.com>
To: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>,
Konrad Dybcio <konradybcio@kernel.org>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Bartosz Golaszewski <brgl@kernel.org>,
linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org,
Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com>,
Kuldeep Singh <kuldeep.singh@oss.qualcomm.com>,
Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@oss.qualcomm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] crypto: qce - Remove driver
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2026 18:55:20 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <50d9d0e4-28c9-42b6-8b71-e75682b4959c@oss.qualcomm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260729145520.GA1702@sol>
On 7/29/26 4:55 PM, Eric Biggers wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2026 at 10:02:27AM +0200, Konrad Dybcio wrote:
>> On 7/28/26 5:22 PM, Eric Biggers wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jul 24, 2026 at 08:51:44AM -0700, Eric Biggers wrote:
>>>> It is consuming a lot of the community's time to help maintain,
>>>> including dealing with LLM-found bugs, with no clear benefit to anyone.
>>>> Even considering *just today* we can see someone sent a bug fix:
>>>> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-crypto/20260724081537.191992-2-thorsten.blum@linux.dev/
>>>
>>> Another example:
>>> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-crypto/d5de5a55-eb35-4ad5-8d53-12e188e156cb@oss.qualcomm.com/
>>>
>>>> It definitely *was* causing problems before it was disabled via the
>>>> crypto priority system (which made it unused in the kernel) and dropped
>>>> it from AF_ALG (which removed most of the unprivileged attack surface).
>>>> When anyone accidentally used it, it caused at least a huge performance
>>>> problem, and sometimes other problems too like filesystem hangs. It was
>>>> an issue for years.
>>>
>>> This actually seems to have been an overly-optimistic characterization!
>>> As per
>>> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-crypto/d5de5a55-eb35-4ad5-8d53-12e188e156cb@oss.qualcomm.com/
>>> this driver drains the battery on every system with the module loaded,
>>> even when no crypto requests are actually sent to it.
>>
>> Unfortunately removing it drains way more battery, because the buses
>> never hit sync_state and are kept at their maximum frequencies:
>>
>> [ 18.021823] qnoc-glymur interconnect-1: sync_state() pending due to 1dfa000.crypto
>> [ 18.029605] qnoc-glymur 16e0000.interconnect: sync_state() pending due to 1dfa000.crypto
>>
>> (it transiently also pins DRAM and friends to max-freq which absolutely
>> kills battery life)
>
> Isn't that easily fixable by marking the node as "disabled" in the
> device tree, or even just deleting it entirely?
Avoided? Yes. Fixed? No. The DT is valid but Linux can't deal with it
[since the driver is gone]
Konrad
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-07-29 16:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-07-24 5:06 Eric Biggers
2026-07-24 5:28 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-07-24 7:36 ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-07-24 8:41 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-07-24 9:29 ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-07-24 14:14 ` Eric Biggers
2026-07-24 14:47 ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-07-24 15:04 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-07-24 15:09 ` Eric Biggers
2026-07-24 15:25 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-07-24 15:51 ` Eric Biggers
2026-07-27 13:26 ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-07-28 15:30 ` Eric Biggers
2026-07-28 15:22 ` Eric Biggers
2026-07-29 8:02 ` Konrad Dybcio
2026-07-29 14:55 ` Eric Biggers
2026-07-29 16:55 ` Konrad Dybcio [this message]
2026-07-29 17:18 ` Eric Biggers
2026-07-30 11:15 ` Konrad Dybcio
2026-07-30 16:40 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-29 12:02 ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-07-29 17:38 ` Eric Biggers
2026-07-24 9:56 ` Sumit Garg
2026-07-24 13:51 ` Eric Biggers
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