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From: Marcus Sundman <marcus@hibox.fi>
To: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Debugging system freezes on filesystem writes
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 20:41:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <512D01E0.7010009@hibox.fi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130224012052.GC1196@thunk.org>

On 24.02.2013 03:20, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 11:12:22AM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
>>>> /dev/sda6 /home ext4 rw,noatime,discard 0 0
>>                                     ^^^^^^^
>> I'd say that's your problem....
> Looks like the Sandisk U100 is a good SSD for me to put on my personal
> "avoid" list:
>
> http://thessdreview.com/our-reviews/asus-zenbook-ssd-review-not-necessarily-sandforce-driven-shows-significant-speed-bump/
>
> There are a number of SSD's which do not implement "trim" efficiently,
> so these days, the recommended way to use trim is to run the "fstrim"
> command out of crontab.

OK. Removing 'discard' made it much better (the 60-600 second freezes 
are now 1-50 second freezes), but it's still at least an order of 
magnitude worse than a normal HD. When writing, that is -- reading is 
very fast (when there's no writing going on).

So, after reading up a bit on this trimming I'm thinking maybe my 
filesystem's block sizes don't match up with my SSD's blocks (or 
whatever its write unit is called). Then writing a FS block would always 
write to multiple SSD blocks, causing multiple read-erase-write 
sequences, right? So how can I check this, and how can I make the FS 
blocks match the SSD blocks?

Best regards,
Marcus


  reply	other threads:[~2013-02-26 18:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-28 22:39 Marcus Sundman
2012-11-01 19:01 ` Jan Kara
2012-11-02  2:19   ` Marcus Sundman
2012-11-07 16:17     ` Jan Kara
2012-11-08 23:41       ` Marcus Sundman
2012-11-09 13:12         ` Marcus Sundman
2012-11-13 13:51           ` Jan Kara
2012-11-16  1:11             ` Marcus Sundman
2012-11-21 23:30               ` Jan Kara
2012-11-27 16:14                 ` Marcus Sundman
2012-12-05 15:32                   ` Jan Kara
2013-02-20  8:42                     ` Marcus Sundman
2013-02-20 11:40                       ` Marcus Sundman
2013-02-22 20:51                         ` Jan Kara
2013-02-22 23:27                           ` Marcus Sundman
2013-02-24  0:12                             ` Dave Chinner
2013-02-24  1:20                               ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-26 18:41                                 ` Marcus Sundman [this message]
2013-02-26 22:17                                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-26 23:17                                   ` Jan Kara
2013-09-12 12:57                                     ` Marcus Sundman
2013-09-12 13:10                                       ` Jan Kara
2013-09-12 13:47                                         ` Marcus Sundman
2013-09-12 14:39                                           ` Jan Kara
2013-09-12 15:08                                             ` Marcus Sundman
2013-09-12 16:35                                               ` Jan Kara
2013-09-12 17:59                                                 ` Marcus Sundman
2013-09-12 20:46                                                   ` Jan Kara
2013-09-13  6:35                                                     ` Marcus Sundman
2013-09-13 20:54                                                       ` Jan Kara
2013-09-14  2:41                                                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-09-15 19:19                                                     ` Marcus Sundman
2013-09-16  0:06                                                       ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-25 13:05                             ` Jan Kara

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