I am not on the list Please forward. It works some times on a openSuSE 12.3 KDE 4 system the kernel is 3.9.0-rc5 donn@m1l-suse:~> /usr/sbin/hwinfo --sound 19: PCI 14.2: 0403 Audio device [Created at pci.319] Unique ID: 5Dex.9zCmC9gVD38 SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.2 SysFS BusID: 0000:00:14.2 Hardware Class: sound Model: "ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)" Vendor: pci 0x1002 "ATI Technologies Inc" Device: pci 0x4383 "SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)" SubVendor: pci 0x1458 "Giga-byte Technology" SubDevice: pci 0xa002 Driver: "snd_hda_intel" Driver Modules: "snd_hda_intel" Memory Range: 0xfe024000-0xfe027fff (rw,non-prefetchable) IRQ: 16 (1796 events) Module Alias: "pci:v00001002d00004383sv00001458sd0000A002bc04sc03i00" Driver Info #0: Driver Status: snd_hda_intel is active Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe snd_hda_intel" Config Status: cfg=yes, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown 36: USB 00.0: 0401 Multimedia audio controller [Created at usb.122] Unique ID: CiZ2.yZQG+mc2fFC Parent ID: uIhY.erpEvbsFWX1 SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:13.0/usb3/3-3/3-3:1.0 SysFS BusID: 3-3:1.0 Hardware Class: sound Model: "Creative SB X-Fi Surround 5.1 Pro" Hotplug: USB Vendor: usb 0x041e "Creative Technology, Ltd" Device: usb 0x30df "SB X-Fi Surround 5.1 Pro" Revision: "1.00" Serial ID: "000002eA" Speed: 12 Mbps Module Alias: "usb:v041Ep30DFd0100dc00dsc00dp00ic01isc01ip00in00" Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown Attached to: #35 (Hub) donn@m1l-suse:~> alsa-info saved -- 73 de Donn Washburn 1803 Oaklawn Email Sugar Land, TX 77498-2249 LL# 1.281.242.4807 Ham Callsign N5XWB HAMs : VoIP via Skype:n5xwbg BMWMOA #:4146 Ambassador " http://counter.li.org " #279316