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From: Stanislav Meduna <stano@meduna.org>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: "linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org" <linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, riel <riel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH - sort of] x86: Livelock in handle_pte_fault
Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 09:32:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <519C7475.5080400@meduna.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1369183168.6828.168.camel@gandalf.local.home>

On 22.05.2013 02:39, Steven Rostedt wrote:

> The threads do a mlockall too right? I'm not sure mlock will lock memory
> for a new thread's stack.

They don't. However,
https://rt.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Threaded_RT-application_with_memory_locking_and_stack_handling_example
claims

  "Threads started after a call to mlockall(MCL_CURRENT | MCL_FUTURE) will
  generate page faults immediately since the new stack is immediately forced
  to RAM (due to the MCL_FUTURE flag)."

and as the ps -o min_flt reports zero page faults for the threads
so I think it is also the case.

Anyway, both particular addresses were surely mapped long before
the fault.

>> - the application runs with mlockall()
> 
> With both MCL_FUTURE and MCL_CURRENT set, right?

Yes.

>> - there is no swap
> 
> Hmm, doesn't mean that code can't be swapped out, as it is just mapped
> from the file it came from. But you'd think mlockall would prevent that.

mlockall also forces the stack to be mapped immediately and not
generating pagefaults when incrementally expanding.

> Seems a bit extreme. Looks to me there's a missing flush TLB somewhere.

Probably.

One interesting thing: the test for "need to reload something"
looks a bit differently for the ARM architecture in
arch/arm/include/asm/mmu_context.h:

  if (!cpumask_test_and_set_cpu(cpu, mm_cpumask(next)) || prev != next) {

and they do something also for the
  !CONFIG_SMP && !cpumask_test_and_set_cpu(cpu, mm_cpumask(next)
case. I don't know what exactly is semantics of mm_cpumask,
but the difference is suspicious.

> Do you have a reproducer you can share. That way, maybe we can all share
> the joy.

Unfortunately not and I have really tried :( If I get new ideas, I will
try again.

Thanks
-- 
                                                   Stano


  reply	other threads:[~2013-05-22  7:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-17  8:42 Stanislav Meduna
2013-05-22  0:39 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-05-22  7:32   ` Stanislav Meduna [this message]
2013-05-22 12:33   ` Rik van Riel
2013-05-22 15:01     ` Linus Torvalds
2013-05-22 17:41       ` [PATCH] mm: fix up a spurious page fault whenever it happens Rik van Riel
2013-05-22 18:04         ` Stanislav Meduna
2013-05-22 18:11           ` Steven Rostedt
2013-05-22 18:21             ` Stanislav Meduna
2013-05-22 18:35               ` Rik van Riel
2013-05-22 18:42                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-05-22 18:43                   ` Rik van Riel
2013-05-23  8:07                     ` Stanislav Meduna
2013-05-23 12:19                       ` Rik van Riel
2013-05-23 13:29                         ` Steven Rostedt
2013-05-23 15:06                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-05-23 15:27                             ` Steven Rostedt
2013-05-23 17:24                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-05-23 17:36                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-05-23 17:38                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-05-24  8:29                         ` Stanislav Meduna
2013-05-24 10:28                           ` Stanislav Meduna
2013-05-24 13:06                           ` Rik van Riel
2013-05-24 13:55                             ` Stanislav Meduna
2013-05-24 14:23                               ` Stanislav Meduna
2013-06-16 21:34                             ` Stanislav Meduna
2013-06-18 19:13                               ` Stanislav Meduna
2013-06-19  5:20                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-06-19  7:36                                   ` Stanislav Meduna
2013-06-19  8:06                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-06-20 17:50                                       ` Stanislav Meduna
2013-05-23 14:45                       ` Linus Torvalds
2013-05-23 14:50                         ` Linus Torvalds
2013-05-23 15:03                           ` Stanislav Meduna
2013-05-22 18:47                 ` Stanislav Meduna

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