From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751994Ab3FYO5h (ORCPT ); Tue, 25 Jun 2013 10:57:37 -0400 Received: from multi.imgtec.com ([194.200.65.239]:39259 "EHLO multi.imgtec.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751182Ab3FYO5g (ORCPT ); Tue, 25 Jun 2013 10:57:36 -0400 Message-ID: <51C9AFC4.1020305@imgtec.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 15:57:08 +0100 From: James Hogan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130514 Thunderbird/17.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Linus Walleij CC: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Heiko_St=FCbner?= , Stephen Warren , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , "devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org" , Grant Likely , Rob Herring Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] pinctrl: remove slew-rate parameter from tz1090 References: <201306251455.01540.heiko@sntech.de> <201306251456.36499.heiko@sntech.de> <51C99581.2010403@imgtec.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [192.168.154.65] X-SEF-Processed: 7_3_0_01192__2013_06_25_15_57_35 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 25/06/13 14:22, Linus Walleij wrote: > Can't we just try to come up with a patch that nails down the meaning of > slew rate in some meaningful manner then? > > So according to: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slew_rate > a proper expression for slew rate would be dV/dt i.e. > something like microvolts per microsecond (which then just > becomes volts/second). > > What we need to figure out is what range will be applicable within > reasonable doubt for current scenarios and the next few years. > > What are your datasheets specifying here, and what would be > a proper measure? My datasheet says: 0: slow (half frequency) 1: fast I just got a reply back from a hardware engineer, who said that the relationship with the actual volts/usec will depend on both the drive strength and the load on the pad, and that a definite answer probably requires running a simulation. Cheers James