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From: Daniel J Blueman <daniel@numascale-asia.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Mike Travis <travis@sgi.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Nathan Zimmer <nzimmer@sgi.com>,
	holt@sgi.com, rob@landley.net,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	yinghai@kernel.org, Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Steffen Persvold <sp@numascale.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Transparent on-demand memory setup initialization embedded in the (GFP) buddy allocator
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 11:35:19 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51CBB2F7.3050604@numascale-asia.com> (raw)

On Wednesday, June 26, 2013 9:30:02 PM UTC+8, Andrew Morton wrote:
 >
 > On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 11:22:48 +0200 Ingo Molnar <mi...@kernel.org> wrote:
 >
 > > except that on 32 TB
 > > systems we don't spend ~2 hours initializing 8,589,934,592 page heads.
 >
 > That's about a million a second which is crazy slow - even my 
prehistoric desktop
 > is 100x faster than that.
 >
 > Where's all this time actually being spent?

The complexity of a directory-lookup architecture to make the 
(intrinsically unscalable) cache-coherency protocol scalable gives you a 
~1us roundtrip to remote NUMA nodes.

Probably a lot of time is spent in some memsets, and RMW cycles which 
are setting page bits, which are intrinsically synchronous, so the 
initialising core can't get to 12 or so outstanding memory transactions.

Since EFI memory ranges have a flag to state if they are zerod (which 
may be a fair assumption for memory on non-bootstrap processor NUMA 
nodes), we can probably collapse the RMWs to just writes.

A normal write will require a coherency cycle, then a fetch and a 
writeback when it's evicted from the cache. For this purpose, 
non-temporal writes would eliminate the cache line fetch and give a 
massive increase in bandwidth. We wouldn't even need a store-fence as 
the initialising core is the only one online.

Daniel
-- 
Daniel J Blueman
Principal Software Engineer, Numascale Asia

             reply	other threads:[~2013-06-27  3:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-27  3:35 Daniel J Blueman [this message]
2013-06-28 20:37 ` Nathan Zimmer
2013-06-29  7:24   ` Ingo Molnar
2013-06-29 18:03     ` Nathan Zimmer
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-06-21 16:25 [RFC 0/2] Delay initializing of large sections of memory Nathan Zimmer
2013-06-21 16:25 ` [RFC 2/2] x86_64, mm: Reinsert the absent memory Nathan Zimmer
2013-06-23  9:28   ` Ingo Molnar
2013-06-24 20:36     ` Nathan Zimmer
2013-06-25  7:38       ` Ingo Molnar
2013-06-25 17:22         ` Mike Travis
2013-06-25 18:43           ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-06-25 18:51             ` Mike Travis
2013-06-26  9:22               ` [RFC] Transparent on-demand memory setup initialization embedded in the (GFP) buddy allocator Ingo Molnar
2013-06-26 13:28                 ` Andrew Morton
2013-06-26 13:37                   ` Ingo Molnar
2013-06-26 15:02                     ` Nathan Zimmer
2013-06-26 16:15                     ` Mike Travis

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