From: Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>
To: Christian Ruppert <christian.ruppert@abilis.com>
Cc: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
Patrice CHOTARD <patrice.chotard@st.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>,
Rob Herring <rob.herring@calxeda.com>,
Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>,
Sascha Leuenberger <sascha.leuenberger@abilis.com>,
Pierrick Hascoet <pierrick.hascoet@abilis.com>,
devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
Alexandre Courbot <acourbot@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] pinmux: Add TB10x pinmux driver
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 10:05:14 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <51F29E3A.6060202@wwwdotorg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130726094228.GA3232@ab42.lan>
On 07/26/2013 03:42 AM, Christian Ruppert wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 01:54:18PM -0600, Stephen Warren wrote:
>> On 07/18/2013 10:07 AM, Christian Ruppert wrote:
>> ...
>>> Well, perhaps my definition of "inside"/"outside" pins was not quite
>>> clear: The pin groups define the set of (kernel internal) pin numbers of
>>> "outside" pins which are used by pin controller to map a given
>>> interface. Inside pins are not numbered and the inside interfaces are
>>> only used to determine which outside pins are part of the same group
>>> (namely those for which the pin controller hardware provides a mux
>>> connection to the same inside interface):
>>>
>>> 4
>>> 4 /|--/-- SPI
>>> PINS[0..3] --/--|| 4
>>> \|--/-- GPIO[0..3]
>>>
>>> 4
>>> PINS[4..7] -----/------ GPIO[4..7]
>>>
>>> 2
>>> 2 /|--/-- I2C
>>> PINS[8..9] --/--|| 2
>>> \|--/-- GPIO[8..9]
>>>
>>> Pins 0..3 are in the SPI group because on the "inside" they can be muxed
>>> to the SPI interface.
>>> Pins 8..9 are in the I2C group because on the "inside" they can be muxed
>>> to the I2C interface.
>>> Pins 0..9 are in the GPIO group because on the "inside" they can be
>>> muxed to the GPIO controller.
>>>
>>> All pin numbers are relative to the "outside", however, or conflict
>>> management would not be possible. I hope this is more understandable
>>> than my previous explanations.
>>> Both muxes are controlled by the same register. In our overly simplistic
>>> example this is not strictly necessary but in reality you might have pin
>>> conflicts between the different interfaces.
>>
>> Same register, or same field/bits in that register?
>>
>> If it's the same field/bits, I would expect to see the following pin groups:
>>
>> 1) PINS[0..3], PINS[8..9]
>> 2) PINS[4..7]
>>
>> ... since those are the things that are independently muxable.
>> Otherwise, I'd expect to see the following groups:
>>
>> 1) PINS[0..3]
>> 2) PINS[4..7]
>> 3) PINS[8..9]
>>
>>> After the discussion we had so far I'm not so sure if extending the
>>> pinctrl system with this kind of features is a very good idea.
>>
>> That makes things simple:-)
>>
>> One thing I still don't understand; in a previous mail, you'd mentioned
>> 3 DT properties for configuring the pinmux; one represented the pin
>> group, one represented the mux function that was selected for that pin
>> group, and there was a third ("config"?) property. I still don't
>> understand that third property. I only see pins/pingroups and mux
>> functions in the diagram I quoted above.
>
> In my proposal, pin groups represent interfaces instead of ports: All
> three pin groups are configured through the same bit field in the same
> register but they represent _logically_ independent functionalities.
Oh, that's a pretty "coupled" HW design!
I would suggest having a single pin group for all 10 pins (since that's
what HW really has). I imagine with that HW design, there's very little
potential for any kind of dynamic pin-muxing, since it would affect
multiple unrelated HW modules (I2C, SPI), and hence the co-ordination
required for dynamic muxing would make it impractical. As such I would
also specify the pinctrl configuration as a "hog" in the pin controller,
since each configuration bit affects multiple other devices, so it
doesn't make logical sense to try to specify the pinctrl configuration
anywhere other than the pin controller.
> The three DT properties are:
>
> 1. interface (which pins are we actually interested in when requesting
> this)
> 2. port (which bit field/register is used to configure this)
> 3. configuration of that port (which mux function(s) in that bit
> field/register are possible to make the interface available)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-07-26 16:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 138+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-04-10 15:45 [PATCH 1/2] " Christian Ruppert
2013-04-10 15:45 ` [PATCH 2/2] GPIO: Add TB10x GPIO driver Christian Ruppert
2013-04-17 15:13 ` Linus Walleij
2013-04-17 18:37 ` Stephen Warren
2013-04-17 14:48 ` [PATCH 1/2] pinmux: Add TB10x pinmux driver Linus Walleij
2013-04-17 18:32 ` Stephen Warren
2013-04-18 9:03 ` Christian Ruppert
2013-04-26 7:47 ` Linus Walleij
2013-04-29 16:17 ` Christian Ruppert
2013-05-02 18:49 ` Stephen Warren
2013-05-03 18:03 ` Linus Walleij
2013-05-08 16:41 ` Christian Ruppert
2013-05-08 20:01 ` Stephen Warren
2013-05-10 8:25 ` Christian Ruppert
2013-05-14 12:29 ` Linus Walleij
2013-05-15 9:41 ` Christian Ruppert
2013-05-20 8:03 ` Linus Walleij
2013-05-22 9:49 ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-12 16:44 ` [RFC] Allow GPIO ranges based on pinctl pin groups Christian Ruppert
2013-06-13 9:00 ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-13 12:55 ` [PATCH 1/2] Add pin list based GPIO ranges Christian Ruppert
2013-06-13 18:30 ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-14 7:17 ` Patrice CHOTARD
2013-06-14 8:24 ` [PATCH] Fix comment on pinctrl_gpio_range.pin_base Christian Ruppert
2013-06-16 10:19 ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-13 12:55 ` [PATCH 2/2] Make non-linear GPIO ranges accesible from gpiolib Christian Ruppert
2013-06-13 18:36 ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-13 21:38 ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-14 9:12 ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-19 18:10 ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-19 18:27 ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-20 11:57 ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-21 21:17 ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-25 11:59 ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-25 15:59 ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-25 14:27 ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-25 15:19 ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-25 14:32 ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-25 15:22 ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-25 14:56 ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-25 15:31 ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-25 15:47 ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-25 15:28 ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-25 15:39 ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-25 15:53 ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-17 16:03 ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-17 16:04 ` [PATCH 1/4] " Christian Ruppert
2013-06-18 8:09 ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-18 9:25 ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-18 9:29 ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-19 12:03 ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-19 18:15 ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-26 11:42 ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-26 17:33 ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-19 22:27 ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-26 11:46 ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-26 17:34 ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-18 9:29 ` [PATCH 2/4] pinmux: Add TB10x pinmux driver Christian Ruppert
2013-06-19 22:35 ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-26 11:50 ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-26 17:40 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-05 9:49 ` Christian Ruppert
2013-07-05 18:40 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-08 13:02 ` Christian Ruppert
2013-07-10 19:27 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-16 8:47 ` Christian Ruppert
2013-07-16 16:04 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-18 16:07 ` Christian Ruppert
2013-07-18 19:54 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-26 9:42 ` Christian Ruppert
2013-07-26 16:05 ` Stephen Warren [this message]
2013-07-29 22:35 ` Linus Walleij
2013-08-05 11:51 ` Christian Ruppert
2013-08-14 16:53 ` Linus Walleij
2013-08-21 15:57 ` Christian Ruppert
2013-08-22 20:10 ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-28 14:47 ` Christian Ruppert
2013-10-08 12:21 ` Christian Ruppert
2013-10-08 12:25 ` [PATCH 01/03] Make non-linear GPIO ranges accesible from gpiolib Christian Ruppert
2013-10-09 11:58 ` Linus Walleij
2013-10-09 13:28 ` Christian Ruppert
2013-10-09 14:01 ` Linus Walleij
2013-10-10 20:49 ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-11 7:53 ` Linus Walleij
2013-10-15 13:36 ` Christian Ruppert
2013-10-15 13:37 ` [PATCH V2] " Christian Ruppert
2013-10-16 11:19 ` Linus Walleij
2013-10-16 12:56 ` [PATCH] Add a short note on pinctrl_get_group_pins to pinctrl.txt Christian Ruppert
2013-10-16 13:36 ` Linus Walleij
2013-10-10 20:47 ` [PATCH 01/03] Make non-linear GPIO ranges accesible from gpiolib Stephen Warren
2013-10-08 12:25 ` [PATCH 02/03] pinmux: Add TB10x pinmux driver Christian Ruppert
2013-10-09 12:30 ` Linus Walleij
2013-10-15 13:39 ` [PATCH V2] " Christian Ruppert
2013-10-16 11:25 ` Linus Walleij
2013-10-08 12:25 ` [PATCH 03/03] GPIO: Add TB10x GPIO driver Christian Ruppert
2013-10-09 12:19 ` Linus Walleij
2013-10-15 13:45 ` Christian Ruppert
2013-10-16 11:29 ` Linus Walleij
2013-10-16 12:58 ` Christian Ruppert
2013-10-24 16:23 ` Christian Ruppert
2013-10-25 21:44 ` Linus Walleij
2013-10-25 3:27 ` Kumar Gala
2013-08-28 18:49 ` [PATCH 2/4] pinmux: Add TB10x pinmux driver Linus Walleij
2013-08-29 7:35 ` Christian Ruppert
2013-08-29 8:24 ` Linus Walleij
2013-08-30 8:19 ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-18 9:29 ` [PATCH 3/4] GPIO: Add TB10x GPIO driver Christian Ruppert
2013-06-19 22:37 ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-18 9:29 ` [PATCH 4/4] Add Abilis Systems Sarl to device tree vendor prefixes Christian Ruppert
2013-06-17 16:04 ` [PATCH 2/4] pinmux: Add TB10x pinmux driver Christian Ruppert
2013-06-17 16:04 ` [PATCH 3/4] GPIO: Add TB10x GPIO driver Christian Ruppert
2013-06-17 16:04 ` [PATCH 4/4] Add Abilis Systems Sarl to device tree vendor prefixes Christian Ruppert
2013-05-16 0:12 ` [PATCH 1/2] pinmux: Add TB10x pinmux driver Stephen Warren
2013-05-20 8:10 ` Linus Walleij
2013-05-22 14:28 ` Christian Ruppert
2013-05-23 7:43 ` Haojian Zhuang
2013-05-24 11:50 ` Christian Ruppert
2013-05-26 15:49 ` Haojian Zhuang
2013-06-03 12:30 ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-05 1:44 ` Haojian Zhuang
2013-06-06 14:11 ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-06 14:32 ` Haojian Zhuang
2013-06-06 15:30 ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-07 0:00 ` Haojian Zhuang
2013-06-07 11:32 ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-07 14:57 ` Haojian Zhuang
2013-06-07 19:18 ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-08 8:31 ` Haojian Zhuang
2013-06-09 2:47 ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-11 7:27 ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-16 11:11 ` Linus Walleij
2013-05-29 12:21 ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-03 9:42 ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-07 11:36 ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-07 13:34 ` Christian Ruppert
2013-05-24 9:20 ` Linus Walleij
2013-05-24 12:03 ` Christian Ruppert
2013-05-02 18:52 ` Stephen Warren
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