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From: Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>
To: Christian Ruppert <christian.ruppert@abilis.com>
Cc: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	Patrice CHOTARD <patrice.chotard@st.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>,
	Rob Herring <rob.herring@calxeda.com>,
	Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>,
	Sascha Leuenberger <sascha.leuenberger@abilis.com>,
	Pierrick Hascoet <pierrick.hascoet@abilis.com>,
	devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	Alexandre Courbot <acourbot@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] pinmux: Add TB10x pinmux driver
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 10:05:14 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51F29E3A.6060202@wwwdotorg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130726094228.GA3232@ab42.lan>

On 07/26/2013 03:42 AM, Christian Ruppert wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 01:54:18PM -0600, Stephen Warren wrote:
>> On 07/18/2013 10:07 AM, Christian Ruppert wrote:
>> ...
>>> Well, perhaps my definition of "inside"/"outside" pins was not quite
>>> clear: The pin groups define the set of (kernel internal) pin numbers of
>>> "outside" pins which are used by pin controller to map a given
>>> interface. Inside pins are not numbered and the inside interfaces are
>>> only used to determine which outside pins are part of the same group
>>> (namely those for which the pin controller hardware provides a mux
>>> connection to the same inside interface):
>>>
>>>                        4
>>>                 4  /|--/-- SPI
>>>    PINS[0..3] --/--||  4
>>>                    \|--/-- GPIO[0..3]
>>>
>>>                    4
>>>    PINS[4..7] -----/------ GPIO[4..7]
>>>
>>>                        2
>>>                 2  /|--/-- I2C
>>>    PINS[8..9] --/--||  2
>>>                    \|--/-- GPIO[8..9]
>>>
>>> Pins 0..3 are in the SPI group because on the "inside" they can be muxed
>>> to the SPI interface.
>>> Pins 8..9 are in the I2C group because on the "inside" they can be muxed
>>> to the I2C interface.
>>> Pins 0..9 are in the GPIO group because on the "inside" they can be
>>> muxed to the GPIO controller.
>>>
>>> All pin numbers are relative to the "outside", however, or conflict
>>> management would not be possible. I hope this is more understandable
>>> than my previous explanations.
>>> Both muxes are controlled by the same register. In our overly simplistic
>>> example this is not strictly necessary but in reality you might have pin
>>> conflicts between the different interfaces.
>>
>> Same register, or same field/bits in that register?
>>
>> If it's the same field/bits, I would expect to see the following pin groups:
>>
>> 1) PINS[0..3], PINS[8..9]
>> 2) PINS[4..7]
>>
>> ... since those are the things that are independently muxable.
>> Otherwise, I'd expect to see the following groups:
>>
>> 1) PINS[0..3]
>> 2) PINS[4..7]
>> 3) PINS[8..9]
>>
>>> After the discussion we had so far I'm not so sure if extending the
>>> pinctrl system with this kind of features is a very good idea.
>>
>> That makes things simple:-)
>>
>> One thing I still don't understand; in a previous mail, you'd mentioned
>> 3 DT properties for configuring the pinmux; one represented the pin
>> group, one represented the mux function that was selected for that pin
>> group, and there was a third ("config"?) property. I still don't
>> understand that third property. I only see pins/pingroups and mux
>> functions in the diagram I quoted above.
> 
> In my proposal, pin groups represent interfaces instead of ports: All
> three pin groups are configured through the same bit field in the same
> register but they represent _logically_ independent functionalities.

Oh, that's a pretty "coupled" HW design!

I would suggest having a single pin group for all 10 pins (since that's
what HW really has). I imagine with that HW design, there's very little
potential for any kind of dynamic pin-muxing, since it would affect
multiple unrelated HW modules (I2C, SPI), and hence the co-ordination
required for dynamic muxing would make it impractical. As such I would
also specify the pinctrl configuration as a "hog" in the pin controller,
since each configuration bit affects multiple other devices, so it
doesn't make logical sense to try to specify the pinctrl configuration
anywhere other than the pin controller.

> The three DT properties are:
> 
> 1. interface (which pins are we actually interested in when requesting
>    this)
> 2. port (which bit field/register is used to configure this)
> 3. configuration of that port (which mux function(s) in that bit
>    field/register are possible to make the interface available)


  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-26 16:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 138+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-10 15:45 [PATCH 1/2] " Christian Ruppert
2013-04-10 15:45 ` [PATCH 2/2] GPIO: Add TB10x GPIO driver Christian Ruppert
2013-04-17 15:13   ` Linus Walleij
2013-04-17 18:37   ` Stephen Warren
2013-04-17 14:48 ` [PATCH 1/2] pinmux: Add TB10x pinmux driver Linus Walleij
2013-04-17 18:32 ` Stephen Warren
2013-04-18  9:03   ` Christian Ruppert
2013-04-26  7:47     ` Linus Walleij
2013-04-29 16:17       ` Christian Ruppert
2013-05-02 18:49         ` Stephen Warren
2013-05-03 18:03           ` Linus Walleij
2013-05-08 16:41             ` Christian Ruppert
2013-05-08 20:01               ` Stephen Warren
2013-05-10  8:25                 ` Christian Ruppert
2013-05-14 12:29                   ` Linus Walleij
2013-05-15  9:41                     ` Christian Ruppert
2013-05-20  8:03                       ` Linus Walleij
2013-05-22  9:49                         ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-12 16:44                           ` [RFC] Allow GPIO ranges based on pinctl pin groups Christian Ruppert
2013-06-13  9:00                             ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-13 12:55                               ` [PATCH 1/2] Add pin list based GPIO ranges Christian Ruppert
2013-06-13 18:30                                 ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-14  7:17                                 ` Patrice CHOTARD
2013-06-14  8:24                                   ` [PATCH] Fix comment on pinctrl_gpio_range.pin_base Christian Ruppert
2013-06-16 10:19                                     ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-13 12:55                               ` [PATCH 2/2] Make non-linear GPIO ranges accesible from gpiolib Christian Ruppert
2013-06-13 18:36                                 ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-13 21:38                                 ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-14  9:12                                   ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-19 18:10                                     ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-19 18:27                                       ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-20 11:57                                         ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-21 21:17                                           ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-25 11:59                                             ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-25 15:59                                               ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-25 14:27                                             ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-25 15:19                                               ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-25 14:32                                             ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-25 15:22                                               ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-25 14:56                                             ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-25 15:31                                               ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-25 15:47                                                 ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-25 15:28                                             ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-25 15:39                                               ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-25 15:53                                                 ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-17 16:03                                   ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-17 16:04                                     ` [PATCH 1/4] " Christian Ruppert
2013-06-18  8:09                                       ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-18  9:25                                         ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-18  9:29                                           ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-19 12:03                                             ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-19 18:15                                               ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-26 11:42                                                 ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-26 17:33                                                   ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-19 22:27                                             ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-26 11:46                                               ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-26 17:34                                                 ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-18  9:29                                           ` [PATCH 2/4] pinmux: Add TB10x pinmux driver Christian Ruppert
2013-06-19 22:35                                             ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-26 11:50                                               ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-26 17:40                                                 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-05  9:49                                                   ` Christian Ruppert
2013-07-05 18:40                                                     ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-08 13:02                                                       ` Christian Ruppert
2013-07-10 19:27                                                         ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-16  8:47                                                           ` Christian Ruppert
2013-07-16 16:04                                                             ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-18 16:07                                                               ` Christian Ruppert
2013-07-18 19:54                                                                 ` Stephen Warren
2013-07-26  9:42                                                                   ` Christian Ruppert
2013-07-26 16:05                                                                     ` Stephen Warren [this message]
2013-07-29 22:35                                             ` Linus Walleij
2013-08-05 11:51                                               ` Christian Ruppert
2013-08-14 16:53                                                 ` Linus Walleij
2013-08-21 15:57                                                   ` Christian Ruppert
2013-08-22 20:10                                                     ` Stephen Warren
2013-08-28 14:47                                                       ` Christian Ruppert
2013-10-08 12:21                                                         ` Christian Ruppert
2013-10-08 12:25                                                           ` [PATCH 01/03] Make non-linear GPIO ranges accesible from gpiolib Christian Ruppert
2013-10-09 11:58                                                             ` Linus Walleij
2013-10-09 13:28                                                               ` Christian Ruppert
2013-10-09 14:01                                                                 ` Linus Walleij
2013-10-10 20:49                                                                   ` Stephen Warren
2013-10-11  7:53                                                                     ` Linus Walleij
2013-10-15 13:36                                                                   ` Christian Ruppert
2013-10-15 13:37                                                                     ` [PATCH V2] " Christian Ruppert
2013-10-16 11:19                                                                       ` Linus Walleij
2013-10-16 12:56                                                                         ` [PATCH] Add a short note on pinctrl_get_group_pins to pinctrl.txt Christian Ruppert
2013-10-16 13:36                                                                           ` Linus Walleij
2013-10-10 20:47                                                               ` [PATCH 01/03] Make non-linear GPIO ranges accesible from gpiolib Stephen Warren
2013-10-08 12:25                                                           ` [PATCH 02/03] pinmux: Add TB10x pinmux driver Christian Ruppert
2013-10-09 12:30                                                             ` Linus Walleij
2013-10-15 13:39                                                               ` [PATCH V2] " Christian Ruppert
2013-10-16 11:25                                                                 ` Linus Walleij
2013-10-08 12:25                                                           ` [PATCH 03/03] GPIO: Add TB10x GPIO driver Christian Ruppert
2013-10-09 12:19                                                             ` Linus Walleij
2013-10-15 13:45                                                               ` Christian Ruppert
2013-10-16 11:29                                                                 ` Linus Walleij
2013-10-16 12:58                                                                   ` Christian Ruppert
2013-10-24 16:23                                                                     ` Christian Ruppert
2013-10-25 21:44                                                                       ` Linus Walleij
2013-10-25  3:27                                                             ` Kumar Gala
2013-08-28 18:49                                                     ` [PATCH 2/4] pinmux: Add TB10x pinmux driver Linus Walleij
2013-08-29  7:35                                                       ` Christian Ruppert
2013-08-29  8:24                                                         ` Linus Walleij
2013-08-30  8:19                                                           ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-18  9:29                                           ` [PATCH 3/4] GPIO: Add TB10x GPIO driver Christian Ruppert
2013-06-19 22:37                                             ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-18  9:29                                           ` [PATCH 4/4] Add Abilis Systems Sarl to device tree vendor prefixes Christian Ruppert
2013-06-17 16:04                                     ` [PATCH 2/4] pinmux: Add TB10x pinmux driver Christian Ruppert
2013-06-17 16:04                                     ` [PATCH 3/4] GPIO: Add TB10x GPIO driver Christian Ruppert
2013-06-17 16:04                                     ` [PATCH 4/4] Add Abilis Systems Sarl to device tree vendor prefixes Christian Ruppert
2013-05-16  0:12                   ` [PATCH 1/2] pinmux: Add TB10x pinmux driver Stephen Warren
2013-05-20  8:10                     ` Linus Walleij
2013-05-22 14:28                       ` Christian Ruppert
2013-05-23  7:43                         ` Haojian Zhuang
2013-05-24 11:50                           ` Christian Ruppert
2013-05-26 15:49                             ` Haojian Zhuang
2013-06-03 12:30                               ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-05  1:44                                 ` Haojian Zhuang
2013-06-06 14:11                                   ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-06 14:32                                     ` Haojian Zhuang
2013-06-06 15:30                                       ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-07  0:00                                         ` Haojian Zhuang
2013-06-07 11:32                                           ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-07 14:57                                             ` Haojian Zhuang
2013-06-07 19:18                                         ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-08  8:31                                           ` Haojian Zhuang
2013-06-09  2:47                                             ` Stephen Warren
2013-06-11  7:27                                           ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-16 11:11                                             ` Linus Walleij
2013-05-29 12:21                             ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-03  9:42                               ` Christian Ruppert
2013-06-07 11:36                                 ` Linus Walleij
2013-06-07 13:34                                   ` Christian Ruppert
2013-05-24  9:20                         ` Linus Walleij
2013-05-24 12:03                           ` Christian Ruppert
2013-05-02 18:52     ` Stephen Warren

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