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From: Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>
To: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Dipankar Sarma <dipankar@in.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/8] rcu: eliminate deadlock for rcu read site
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 11:25:55 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52143343.4090303@cn.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130821031727.GA21711@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On 08/21/2013 11:17 AM, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 08:07:15AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
>> On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 11:43:59AM +0800, Lai Jiangshan wrote:
> 
> [ . . . ]
> 
>>> So I have to narrow the range of suspect locks. Two choices:
>>> A) don't call rt_mutex_unlock() from rcu_read_unlock(), only call it
>>>    from rcu_preempt_not_context_switch(). we need to rework these
>>>    two functions and it will add complexity to RCU, and it also still
>>>    adds some probability of deferring.
>>
>> One advantage of bh-disable locks is that enabling bh checks
>> TIF_NEED_RESCHED, so that there is no deferring beyond that
>> needed by bh disable.  The same of course applies to preempt_disable().
>>
>> So one approach is to defer when rcu_read_unlock_special() is entered
>> with either preemption or bh disabled.  Your current set_need_resched()
>> trick would work fine in this case.  Unfortunately, re-enabling interrupts
>> does -not- check TIF_NEED_RESCHED, which is why we have latency problems
>> in that case.  (Hence my earlier question about making self-IPI safe
>> on all arches, which would result in an interrupt as soon as interrupts
>> were re-enabled.)
>>
>> Another possibility is to defer only when preemption or bh are disabled
>> on entry ro rcu_read_unlock_special(), but to retain the current
>> (admittedly ugly) nesting rules for the scheduler locks.
> 
> Would you be willing to do a patch that deferred rt_mutex_unlock() in
> the preempt/bh cases?  This of course does not solve the irq-disable
> case, but it should at least narrow the problem to the scheduler locks.
> 
> Not a big hurry, given the testing required, this is 3.13 or 3.14 material,
> I think.
> 
> If you are busy, no problem, I can do it, just figured you have priority
> if you want it.
> 
> 	


I'm writing a special rt_mutex_unlock() for rcu deboost only.
I hope Steven accept it.

Thanks,
Lai

  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-21  3:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-07 10:24 [PATCH 0/8] rcu: Ensure rcu read site is deadlock-immunity Lai Jiangshan
2013-08-07 10:24 ` [PATCH 1/8] rcu: add a warn to rcu_preempt_note_context_switch() Lai Jiangshan
2013-10-30 11:02   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-08-07 10:24 ` [PATCH 2/8] rcu: remove irq/softirq context check in rcu_read_unlock_special() Lai Jiangshan
2013-10-30 11:18   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-08-07 10:24 ` [PATCH 3/8] rcu: keep irqs disabled " Lai Jiangshan
2013-08-07 10:25 ` [PATCH 4/8] rcu: delay task rcu state cleanup in exit_rcu() Lai Jiangshan
2013-08-07 10:25 ` [PATCH 5/8] rcu: eliminate deadlock for rcu read site Lai Jiangshan
2013-08-08 20:40   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-08-09  9:31     ` Lai Jiangshan
2013-08-09 17:58       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-08-12 13:55       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-08-12 15:16         ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-08-12 16:21           ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-08-12 16:44             ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-08-10  3:43     ` Lai Jiangshan
2013-08-10 15:07       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-08-10 15:08         ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-08-21  3:17         ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-08-21  3:25           ` Lai Jiangshan [this message]
2013-08-21 13:42             ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-08-12 13:53       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-08-12 14:10         ` Steven Rostedt
2013-08-12 14:14           ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]           ` <CACvQF51-oAGkdxwku+orKSQ=SZd1A4saXzkrgcRGi+KnZUZYxQ@mail.gmail.com>
2013-08-22 14:34             ` Steven Rostedt
2013-08-22 14:41               ` Steven Rostedt
2013-08-23  6:26               ` Lai Jiangshan
     [not found]                 ` <CACvQF51kcLrJsa=zBKhLkJfFBh109TW+Zrepm+tRxmEp0gALbQ@mail.gmail.com>
2013-08-25 17:43                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-08-26  2:39                     ` Lai Jiangshan
2013-08-30  2:05                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-09-05 15:22                 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-08-07 10:25 ` [PATCH 6/8] rcu: call rcu_read_unlock_special() in rcu_preempt_check_callbacks() Lai Jiangshan
2013-08-07 10:25 ` [PATCH 7/8] rcu: add # of deferred _special() statistics Lai Jiangshan
2013-08-07 16:42   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-08-07 10:25 ` [PATCH 8/8] rcu: remove irq work for rsp_wakeup() Lai Jiangshan
2013-08-07 12:38 ` [PATCH 0/8] rcu: Ensure rcu read site is deadlock-immunity Paul E. McKenney
2013-08-07 19:29   ` Carsten Emde
2013-08-07 19:52     ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-08-08  1:17     ` Lai Jiangshan
2013-08-08  0:36   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-08-08  1:47     ` Lai Jiangshan
2013-08-08  2:12       ` Steven Rostedt
2013-08-08  2:33         ` Lai Jiangshan
2013-08-08  2:33           ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-08-08  3:10             ` Lai Jiangshan
2013-08-08  4:18               ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-08-08  5:27                 ` Lai Jiangshan
2013-08-08  7:05                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-08-08  2:45         ` Lai Jiangshan

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