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From: "Jan Beulich" <JBeulich@suse.com>
To: "Gleb Natapov" <gleb@redhat.com>
Cc: "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@elte.hu>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"KVM list" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH, RFC] x86-64: properly handle FPU code/data selectors
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 11:37:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <525FDA1C02000078000FBCC0@nat28.tlf.novell.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131017102354.GR15657@redhat.com>

>>> On 17.10.13 at 12:23, Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 10:51:52AM +0100, Jan Beulich wrote:
>> >>> On 17.10.13 at 11:41, Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com> wrote:
>> > KVM obviously knows the complete state of virtual CPU. It can figure the
>> > situation above by looking at CS descriptor, not need to check
>> > is_long_mode() at all. Here is how emulator does it:
>> 
>> And again - no: The last floating point operation may have
>> happened in 32-bit user mode context, while the state saving
>> may happen when the guest is already back in 64-bit kernel
>> mode.
>> 
> Hmm, OK so the scenarios you are talking about is:
>  1. Guest's 32bit process uses FPU
>  2. Guest switch to 64bit kernel.
>  3. Before guest's kernel saves 32bit process's FPU state VMEXIT happens
>  4. KVM need to save FPU but it does not know what mode it is in
> Correct? 

Yes.

> KVM gives FPU to a guest lazily, meaning that on a first FPU use #NM
> (intercepted by KVM) happens at which point FPU is granted to a guest.
> KVM can check what mode CPU was in at this point and use this info
> while saving FPU. But there is additional optimization that will prevent
> this from working for all cases: when FPU is granted to a guest KVM
> disabled CR0.TS/#NM intercepts, so guest is free to switch FPU from
> 32bit to 64bit mode without KVM knowing. Disabling this optimization
> will make FP intensive workload slow in a guest.

Not sure what you're trying to tell me with this explanation.

Jan


  reply	other threads:[~2013-10-17 10:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-16 12:00 Jan Beulich
2013-10-16 15:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-10-16 15:36   ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-16 15:50     ` Linus Torvalds
2013-10-16 16:13       ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-16 18:43         ` Linus Torvalds
2013-10-17  7:09           ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-17  9:27         ` Gleb Natapov
2013-10-17  9:33           ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-17  9:41             ` Gleb Natapov
2013-10-17  9:51               ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-17 10:23                 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-10-17 10:37                   ` Jan Beulich [this message]
2013-10-17 10:39                     ` Gleb Natapov
2013-10-16 15:39 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-10-16 16:07   ` Jan Beulich
2013-10-16 17:13     ` H. Peter Anvin

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