From: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Chengfeng Lin <chengfenglin@stu.xmu.edu.cn>,
Pedro Falcato <pfalcato@suse.de>
Cc: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>, Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>,
Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] mm/mincore: present-PTE scan cost after pte_batch_hint() batching
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2026 16:45:05 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <529db4e0-6635-4e3d-8ce5-f215ad9220cf@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <307c2254.17b12.19eb0678f22.Coremail.chengfenglin@stu.xmu.edu.cn>
On 6/10/26 3:20 PM, Chengfeng Lin wrote:
> Hi Pedro, David,
>
> Thanks. I tried two newer GCC builds as well, using the same base config and
> the same mm/mincore.o build target.
>
> The GCC 14.2 sizes were:
>
> v6.15 original: 0x1e8
> v6.16 original: 0x229
> v6.16 batch<=1 fastpath: 0x1d9
> v6.16 with batching removed: 0x1d9
>
> I also tried GCC 15.2 from the Ubuntu 25.10 (Questing) packages, extracted
> locally rather than installed system-wide:
>
> v6.15 original: 0x1e0
> v6.16 original: 0x221
> v6.16 batch<=1 fastpath: 0x1d1
> v6.16 with batching removed: 0x1d1
>
> So GCC 14.2 and GCC 15.2 match the GCC 13.3 direction: v6.16 original still
> does not collapse to the old x86 base-page shape, while the batch<=1 fastpath
> and the nobatch variant produce byte-identical `mincore_pte_range()` objdump
> output. Clang 18.1.3 behaves differently: all four checked variants produce
> byte-identical `mincore_pte_range()` objdump output there.
>
> I also looked at the generated-code difference. It does not look like an
> obvious extra inlining decision. With GCC 13.3, GCC 14.2 and GCC 15.2, the
> original, fastpath, and nobatch builds all have the same external
> call/relocation targets:
>
> __pte_offset_map_lock
> __pmd_trans_huge_lock
> memset
> __cond_resched
> filemap_get_incore_folio
> __folio_put
> swapper_spaces
>
> For GCC 15.2, I also saved focused optimization-dump snippets for
> mincore_pte_range(). They show the same direction before final assembly: the
> original build has more GCC intermediate code than the fastpath/nobatch builds
> (321 optimized-dump lines and 993 RTL-expand lines, compared with 299 and
> 921).
>
> The visible difference is the PTE-loop layout. GCC keeps the v6.16 original
> `step`-based batching shape in the generated code, so the present-PTE hot path
> has an extra split/jump through a common advance block. The nobatch and
> batch<=1 fastpath builds produce a more compact, identical
> `mincore_pte_range()` objdump.
>
> After Pedro's suggestion, I also tried forcing the default helper to
> `__always_inline`:
>
> static __always_inline unsigned int pte_batch_hint(pte_t *ptep, pte_t pte)
>
> That did not change the result in this setup. For GCC 13.3, GCC 14.2 and
> GCC 15.2, the always-inline variant has the same size and normalized
> `mincore_pte_range()` objdump as v6.16 original, not the batch<=1 fastpath /
> nobatch shape.
>
> I put the updated GCC14/GCC15 nm/objdump files, focused dump snippets, and a
> short side-by-side block note here:
>
> https://github.com/lcf0399/linux-mm-regression-evidence-2026-05/tree/444d66373b7be32f7a06b52b3d9ced7c2c53264f/mincore-present-pte-scan/codegen
>
> One caveat: I have not rerun the timing part on bare metal. The timing signal
> I reported is still from the QEMU direct-boot lab, so I do not want to
> overstate that part. The codegen comparison above is static `mm/mincore.o`
> evidence and is not QEMU-dependent.
>
> So the narrower result is that newer GCC did not make the codegen difference
> disappear in this check.
>
> If there is another specific compiler/codegen detail that would be useful to
> check, I can look at that.
I quickly tested using your test cases (haven't reviewed your test code
yet) on my x86 Xeon machine, and I didn't observe any obvious regression
(tested 3 times, taking the average), and the data shows some noisy
fluctuations:
test cases: ./mincore_present_pte_scan no_thp_pte_scan_64m 1
metric: mincore_ns_per_1k_pages, lower is better
base revert 4df65651f7075
2675 2670
I still suspect it's an issue with your QEMU test environment. I'd
suggest retesting on bare metals.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-06-10 8:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-09 7:26 Chengfeng Lin
2026-06-09 9:01 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-09 9:55 ` Barry Song
2026-06-09 14:12 ` Chengfeng Lin
2026-06-09 14:27 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-09 21:12 ` Pedro Falcato
2026-06-10 7:20 ` Chengfeng Lin
2026-06-10 8:45 ` Baolin Wang [this message]
2026-06-10 9:20 ` Chengfeng Lin
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