From: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
To: Artur Rojek <contact@artur-rojek.eu>
Cc: Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>, Jeff Dionne <jeff@coresemi.io>,
John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>,
Geert Uytterhoeven <geert+renesas@glider.be>,
Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] net: j2: Introduce J-Core EMAC
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2025 17:04:12 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <52aef275-0907-4510-b95c-b2b01738ce0b@lunn.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9eab7a4ff3a72117a1a832b87425130f@artur-rojek.eu>
On Sat, Aug 16, 2025 at 03:40:57PM +0200, Artur Rojek wrote:
> On 2025-08-16 02:18, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> > > Yes, it's an IC+ IP101ALF 10/100 Ethernet PHY [1]. It does have both
> > > MDC
> > > and MDIO pins connected, however I suspect that nothing really
> > > configures it, and it simply runs on default register values (which
> > > allow for valid operation in 100Mb/s mode, it seems). I doubt there is
> > > another IP core to handle MDIO, as this SoC design is optimized for
> > > minimal utilization of FPGA blocks. Does it make sense to you that a
> > > MAC
> > > could run without any access to an MDIO bus?
> >
> > It can work like that. You will likely have problems if the link ever
> > negotiates 10Mbps or 100Mbps half duplex. You generally need to change
> > something in the MAC to support different speeds and duplex. Without
> > being able to talk to the PHY over MDIO you have no idea what it has
> > negotiated with the link peer.
>
> Thanks for the explanation. I just confirmed that there is no activity
> on the MDIO bus from board power on, up to the jcore_emac driver start
> (and past it), so most likely this SoC design does not provide any
> management interface between MAC and PHY. I guess once/if MDIO is
> implemented, we can distinguish between IP core revision compatibles,
> and properly switch between netif_carrier_*()/phylink logic.
How cut down of a SoC design is it? Is there pinmux and each pin can
also be used for GPIO? Linux has software bit-banging MDIO, if you can
make the two pins be standard Linux GPIOs, and can configure them
correctly, i _think_ open drain on MDIO. It will be slow, but it
works, and it is pretty much for free.
MDIO itself is simple, just a big shift register:
https://opencores.org/websvn/filedetails?repname=ethmac10g&path=%2Fethmac10g%2Ftrunk%2Frtl%2Fverilog%2Fmgmt%2Fmdio.v
Andrew
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-08-16 15:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-15 19:48 [PATCH 0/3] J2 Ethernet MAC driver Artur Rojek
2025-08-15 19:48 ` [PATCH 1/3] dt-bindings: vendor-prefixes: Document J-Core Artur Rojek
2025-08-16 8:18 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-08-16 8:22 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-08-16 9:40 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-08-16 10:34 ` Artur Rojek
2025-08-16 9:40 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-08-15 19:48 ` [PATCH 2/3] dt-bindings: net: Add support for J-Core EMAC Artur Rojek
2025-08-16 8:19 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-08-16 12:06 ` Artur Rojek
2025-08-18 6:43 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-08-18 8:07 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-08-18 8:21 ` D. Jeff Dionne
2025-08-18 9:58 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-08-18 10:57 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-08-18 13:41 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-08-18 13:55 ` D. Jeff Dionne
2025-08-20 21:39 ` Rob Herring
2025-08-21 21:02 ` Rob Landley
2025-08-18 15:03 ` Rob Landley
2025-08-15 19:48 ` [PATCH 3/3] net: j2: Introduce " Artur Rojek
2025-08-15 20:16 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-08-15 20:52 ` Artur Rojek
2025-08-15 21:14 ` Artur Rojek
2025-08-15 22:38 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-08-15 23:25 ` Artur Rojek
2025-08-16 0:18 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-08-16 13:40 ` Artur Rojek
2025-08-16 15:04 ` Andrew Lunn [this message]
2025-08-17 12:04 ` Artur Rojek
2025-08-17 18:09 ` Rob Landley
2025-08-17 19:39 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-08-17 4:29 ` D. Jeff Dionne
2025-08-17 11:50 ` Artur Rojek
2025-08-17 16:04 ` Rob Landley
2025-08-17 16:08 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-08-15 23:26 ` Stephen Hemminger
2025-08-16 11:24 ` kernel test robot
2025-08-19 21:09 ` kernel test robot
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