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From: Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>
To: Jonas Gorski <jonas.gorski@gmail.com>,
	Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>
Cc: Florian Fainelli <florian.fainelli@broadcom.com>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	Kurt Kanzenbach <kurt@linutronix.de>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net 00/11] net: dsa: b53: accumulated fixes
Date: Tue, 6 May 2025 21:03:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <531074c1-f818-4c0a-b8d1-be63ace38d5f@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOiHx=kFhH-fB0b-nHPhEzgs1M_vBnzPZN48ZCzOs8iW7YTJzA@mail.gmail.com>



On 5/6/2025 4:27 PM, Jonas Gorski wrote:
> On Tue, May 6, 2025 at 3:42 PM Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> / unrelated to patches /
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 30, 2025 at 10:43:40AM +0200, Jonas Gorski wrote:
>>>>> I have a fix/workaround for that, but as it is a bit more controversial
>>>>> and makes use of an unrelated feature, I decided to hold off from that
>>>>> and post it later.
>>>>
>>>> Can you expand on the fix/workaround you have?
>>>
>>> It's setting EAP mode to simplified on standalone ports, where it
>>> redirects all frames to the CPU port where there is no matching ARL
>>> entry for that SA and port. That should work on everything semi recent
>>> (including BCM63XX), and should work regardless of VLAN. It might
>>> cause more traffic than expected to be sent to the switch, as I'm not
>>> sure if multicast filtering would still work (not that I'm sure that
>>> it currently works lol).
>>>
>>> At first I moved standalone ports to VID 4095 for untagged traffic,
>>> but that only fixed the issue for untagged traffic, and you would have
>>> had the same issue again when using VLAN uppers. And VLAN uppers have
>>> the same issue on vlan aware bridges, so the above would be a more
>>> complete workaround.
>>
>> I don't understand the logic, can you explain "you would have had the
>> same issue again when using VLAN uppers"? The original issue, as you
>> presented it, is with bridges with vlan_filtering=0, and does not exist
>> with vlan_filtering=1 bridges. In the problematic mode, VLAN uppers are
>> not committed to hardware RX filters. And bridges with mixed
>> vlan_filtering values are not permitted by dsa_port_can_apply_vlan_filtering().
>> So I don't see how making VID 4095 be the PVID of just standalone ports
>> (leaving VLAN-unaware bridge ports with a different VID) would not be
>> sufficient for the presented problem.
> 
> The issue isn't the vlan filtering, it's the (missing) FDB isolation
> on the ASIC.

Could not we just use double tagging to overcome that limitation?
-- 
Florian


  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-06 19:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-29 20:16 Jonas Gorski
2025-04-29 20:17 ` [PATCH net 01/11] net: dsa: b53: allow leaky reserved multicast Jonas Gorski
2025-04-29 20:17 ` [PATCH net 02/11] net: dsa: b53: keep CPU port always tagged again Jonas Gorski
2025-04-29 20:17 ` [PATCH net 03/11] net: dsa: b53: fix clearing PVID of a port Jonas Gorski
2025-04-29 20:17 ` [PATCH net 04/11] net: dsa: b53: fix flushing old pvid VLAN on pvid change Jonas Gorski
2025-04-30  8:03   ` Florian Fainelli
2025-04-30  9:00     ` Jonas Gorski
2025-04-29 20:17 ` [PATCH net 05/11] net: dsa: b53: fix VLAN ID for untagged vlan on bridge leave Jonas Gorski
2025-04-29 20:17 ` [PATCH net 06/11] net: dsa: b53: always rejoin default untagged VLAN " Jonas Gorski
2025-04-29 20:17 ` [PATCH net 07/11] net: dsa: b53: do not allow to configure VLAN 0 Jonas Gorski
2025-04-29 20:17 ` [PATCH net 08/11] net: dsa: b53: do not program vlans when vlan filtering is off Jonas Gorski
2025-04-29 20:17 ` [PATCH net 09/11] net: dsa: b53: fix toggling vlan_filtering Jonas Gorski
2025-05-06  7:51   ` Paolo Abeni
2025-05-06  7:55     ` Florian Fainelli
2025-04-29 20:17 ` [PATCH net 10/11] net: dsa: b53: fix learning on VLAN unaware bridges Jonas Gorski
2025-04-29 20:17 ` [PATCH net 11/11] net: dsa: b53: do not set learning and unicast/multicast on up Jonas Gorski
2025-04-30  8:07 ` [PATCH net 00/11] net: dsa: b53: accumulated fixes Florian Fainelli
2025-04-30  8:43   ` Jonas Gorski
2025-05-06 13:42     ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-05-06 14:27       ` Jonas Gorski
2025-05-06 19:03         ` Florian Fainelli [this message]
2025-05-06 19:48           ` Jonas Gorski
2025-05-07  7:30             ` Florian Fainelli
2025-05-06 13:08 ` Florian Fainelli
2025-05-08  2:40 ` patchwork-bot+netdevbpf

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