From: "Mickaël Salaün" <mic@digikod.net>
To: Stephen Smalley <stephen.smalley.work@gmail.com>,
Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v8 1/3] fs: Introduce AT_INTERPRETED flag for faccessat2(2)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2020 16:14:32 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <532eefa8-49ca-1c23-1228-d5a4e2d8af90@digikod.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEjxPJ5evWDSv-T-p=4OX29Pr584ZRAsnYoxSRd4qFDoryB+fQ@mail.gmail.com>
On 08/09/2020 15:42, Stephen Smalley wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 9:29 AM Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 2020-09-08 at 08:52 -0400, Stephen Smalley wrote:
>>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 8:50 AM Stephen Smalley
>>> <stephen.smalley.work@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 8:43 AM Mickaël Salaün <mic@digikod.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 08/09/2020 14:28, Mimi Zohar wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Mickael,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 2020-09-08 at 09:59 +0200, Mickaël Salaün wrote:
>>>>>>> + mode |= MAY_INTERPRETED_EXEC;
>>>>>>> + /*
>>>>>>> + * For compatibility reasons, if the system-wide policy
>>>>>>> + * doesn't enforce file permission checks, then
>>>>>>> + * replaces the execute permission request with a read
>>>>>>> + * permission request.
>>>>>>> + */
>>>>>>> + mode &= ~MAY_EXEC;
>>>>>>> + /* To be executed *by* user space, files must be readable. */
>>>>>>> + mode |= MAY_READ;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After this change, I'm wondering if it makes sense to add a call to
>>>>>> security_file_permission(). IMA doesn't currently define it, but
>>>>>> could.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, that's the idea. We could replace the following inode_permission()
>>>>> with file_permission(). I'm not sure how this will impact other LSMs though.
>>
>> I wasn't suggesting replacing the existing security_inode_permission
>> hook later, but adding a new security_file_permission hook here.
>>
>>>>
>>>> They are not equivalent at least as far as SELinux is concerned.
>>>> security_file_permission() was only to be used to revalidate
>>>> read/write permissions previously checked at file open to support
>>>> policy changes and file or process label changes. We'd have to modify
>>>> the SELinux hook if we wanted to have it check execute access even if
>>>> nothing has changed since open time.
>>>
>>> Also Smack doesn't appear to implement file_permission at all, so it
>>> would skip Smack checking.
>>
>> My question is whether adding a new security_file_permission call here
>> would break either SELinux or Apparmor?
>
> selinux_inode_permission() has special handling for MAY_ACCESS so we'd
> need to duplicate that into selinux_file_permission() ->
> selinux_revalidate_file_permission(). Also likely need to adjust
> selinux_file_permission() to explicitly check whether the mask
> includes any permissions not checked at open time. So some changes
> would be needed here. By default, it would be a no-op unless there
> was a policy reload or the file was relabeled between the open(2) and
> the faccessat(2) call.
>
We could create a new hook path_permission(struct path *path, int mask)
as a superset of inode_permission(). To be more convenient, his new hook
could then just call inode_permission() for every LSMs not implementing
path_permission().
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-09-08 16:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-09-08 7:59 [RFC PATCH v8 0/3] Add support for AT_INTERPRETED (was O_MAYEXEC) Mickaël Salaün
2020-09-08 7:59 ` [RFC PATCH v8 1/3] fs: Introduce AT_INTERPRETED flag for faccessat2(2) Mickaël Salaün
2020-09-08 12:28 ` Mimi Zohar
2020-09-08 12:43 ` Mickaël Salaün
2020-09-08 12:50 ` Stephen Smalley
2020-09-08 12:52 ` Stephen Smalley
2020-09-08 13:29 ` Mimi Zohar
[not found] ` <CAEjxPJ5evWDSv-T-p=4OX29Pr584ZRAsnYoxSRd4qFDoryB+fQ@mail.gmail.com>
2020-09-08 14:14 ` Mickaël Salaün [this message]
2020-09-08 15:38 ` Mimi Zohar
2020-09-08 15:24 ` Mimi Zohar
2020-09-08 15:44 ` Mickaël Salaün
2020-09-08 16:44 ` Mimi Zohar
2020-09-08 17:21 ` Mickaël Salaün
2020-09-08 7:59 ` [RFC PATCH v8 2/3] fs,doc: Enable to configure exec checks for AT_INTERPRETED Mickaël Salaün
2020-09-08 7:59 ` [RFC PATCH v8 3/3] selftest/interpreter: Add tests for AT_INTERPRETED enforcing Mickaël Salaün
2020-09-08 18:50 ` [RFC PATCH v8 0/3] Add support for AT_INTERPRETED (was O_MAYEXEC) Al Viro
2020-09-09 7:19 ` Mickaël Salaün
2020-09-09 17:08 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-09-09 17:55 ` Mickaël Salaün
2020-09-10 9:26 ` Thibaut Sautereau
2020-09-09 17:13 ` Al Viro
2020-09-09 17:56 ` Mickaël Salaün
2020-09-12 0:16 ` James Morris
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