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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>,
	Sasha Levin <sasha.levin@oracle.com>
Cc: vegard.nossum@oracle.com, penberg@kernel.org,
	jamie.iles@oracle.com, mingo@redhat.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] x86/insn: Extract more information about instructions
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 20:45:29 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53509FD9.2020803@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53509EB9.5070001@hitachi.com>

On 04/17/2014 08:40 PM, Masami Hiramatsu wrote:
> (2014/04/18 2:31), Sasha Levin wrote:
>>> I also have seen several attempts at using the generic instruction
>>> decoder which has resulted in more complexity, not less, because of
>>> excess generality, so it is not an obvious thing.
>>
>> Let's split this patchset into two:
>>
>> We have one part which moves kmemcheck to the generic instruction decoder
>> and adds memory access size to the instruction decoder. There seems to be
>> no objection to that part beyond technical issues regarding how we store
>> the new size value.
> 
> This looks OK to me.
> 
>> The other part is adding mnemonics to the instruction decoder. If my
>> explanation above makes sense, and kmemcheck does need to know about AND,
>> OR, XOR, MOVS and CMPS then let me know how to proceed about changing
>> the instruction decoder to add that functionality.
> 
> I don't think we need to add such things to instruction decoder.
> You'd better start from clarifying the bit pattern of those instructions
> and making macros or inlines which evaluate insn->opcode.value.
> 
> Using automatic generated macros for immediate in the source code always
> leads misunderstanding and abuse, and is hard to fix if a bug is there.
> I strongly recommend you to define instruction classification macros
> for their use by hand. That's easy to review too.
> Actually x86 has a long history and its mnemonics are not so simple...
> 

What it sounds like it really wants is a "bitwise" flag on the instruction.

	-hpa



  reply	other threads:[~2014-04-18  3:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-14 17:44 [PATCH 1/4] kmemcheck: add additional selfchecks Sasha Levin
2014-04-14 17:44 ` [PATCH 2/4] x86: Move instruction decoder data into header Sasha Levin
2014-04-15  1:41   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-04-15  2:28     ` Sasha Levin
2014-04-15  3:10       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-04-15 14:24         ` Sasha Levin
2014-04-16  3:06           ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-04-14 17:44 ` [PATCH 3/4] x86/insn: Extract more information about instructions Sasha Levin
2014-04-15  3:12   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-04-15  4:36     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-04-15 15:10     ` Sasha Levin
2014-04-16  3:26       ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-16  3:47         ` Sasha Levin
2014-04-16  3:54           ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-16  4:03             ` Sasha Levin
2014-04-16  4:31               ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-16  5:30               ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-04-17 15:20                 ` Sasha Levin
2014-04-17 15:28                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-17 17:31                     ` Sasha Levin
2014-04-18  3:40                       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-04-18  3:45                         ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2014-04-18 15:47                           ` Sasha Levin
2014-04-18 16:48                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-16  5:44       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-04-17 15:33         ` Sasha Levin
2014-04-18  3:25           ` Masami Hiramatsu
2014-04-14 17:44 ` [PATCH 4/4] kmemcheck: Switch to using kernel disassembler Sasha Levin
2014-04-15  8:17   ` Pekka Enberg

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