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From: Denys Vlasenko <dvlasenk@redhat.com>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Hidetoshi Seto <seto.hidetoshi@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Fernando Luis Vazquez Cao <fernando_b1@lab.ntt.co.jp>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] nohz: Synchronize sleep time stats with memory barriers
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 20:36:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53595993.2080905@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140424001640.GA27571@localhost.localdomain>

On 04/24/2014 02:16 AM, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
>> + again:
>> +	active = ACCESS_ONCE(ts->idle_active);
>> +	smp_rmb();
>> +	count = ACCESS_ONCE(ts->idle_sleeptime);
>> +	if (active == 1) {
>> +		ktime_t delta, start;
>> +
>> +		smp_rmb();
>> +		start = ACCESS_ONCE(ts->idle_entrytime);
>> +		if (start.tv64 == 0) {
>> +			/*
>> +			 * Other CPU is updating the count.
>> +			 * We don't know whether fetched count is valid.
>> +			 */
>> +			goto again;
>> +		}
>> +		delta = ktime_sub(now, start);
>> +		count = ktime_add(count, delta);
> 
> There is still a possibility that you race with an updater here.
> Lets take these initial values, all of which belong to ts(CPU 1):
> 
>       // idle_sleeptime == 0
>       // idle_entrytime == 0
>       // ktime_get() == 100
>       // idle_active = 1
> 
>            CPU 0                                       CPU 1
> 
>       count = idle_sleeptime // = 0               
>                                                      tick_nohz_stop_idle();
>                                                      tick_nohz_start_idle();
>                                                      /* now idle_sleeptime == 100
>                                                         and idle_entrytime == 100
>                                                         ktime_get() is still 100
>                                                         and idle_active is still 1
>                                                         as it has toggled two times */
>       delta = now - idle_entrytime; // 100 - 100
>       count += delta // == 0
> 
> Then you get the spurious 0 result.
> 
> So memory barriers probably aren't enough here. seqcount would solve the issue as it maintains
> update seq tokens.

I think you are right. I'll use your approach (seqcount) in the next version.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-04-24 18:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-23 19:00 [PATCH 1/3] nohz: Only update sleeptime stats locally Denys Vlasenko
2014-04-23 19:00 ` [PATCH 2/3] nohz: Synchronize sleep time stats with memory barriers Denys Vlasenko
2014-04-24  0:16   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-04-24 18:36     ` Denys Vlasenko [this message]
2014-04-23 19:00 ` [PATCH 3/3] nohz: Fix iowait overcounting if iowait task migrates Denys Vlasenko
2014-04-24  0:37   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-04-24  7:07   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-24 18:38     ` Denys Vlasenko
2014-04-24  8:19   ` Hidetoshi Seto
2014-04-24 18:43     ` Denys Vlasenko

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