From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S936133AbaH1GvM (ORCPT ); Thu, 28 Aug 2014 02:51:12 -0400 Received: from h1446028.stratoserver.net ([85.214.92.142]:50582 "EHLO mail.ahsoftware.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932533AbaH1GvJ (ORCPT ); Thu, 28 Aug 2014 02:51:09 -0400 Message-ID: <53FED13C.4070606@ahsoftware.de> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 08:50:36 +0200 From: Alexander Holler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stephen Warren , Catalin Marinas , Grant Likely CC: Mark Rutland , "devicetree@vger.kernel.org" , Jon Loeliger , Russell King , Arnd Bergmann , Greg Kroah-Hartman , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , Rob Herring , Thierry Reding , "linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/9] dt: dependencies (for deterministic driver initialization order based on the DT) References: <53F64624.5000403@ahsoftware.de> <20140822131919.GX21734@leverpostej> <20140825093931.GB2399@ulmo> <20140825133714.GH4163@ulmo.nvidia.com> <20140826084208.AE5F0C40989@trevor.secretlab.ca> <20140826084922.GG17263@ulmo> <53FC566C.30904@ahsoftware.de> <20140826101107.GC32315@leverpostej> <20140827103432.64927C409CB@trevor.secretlab.ca> <20140827144403.GB13850@arm.com> <53FE05AE.9000406@wwwdotorg.org> <53FE07BE.7000809@ahsoftware.de> <53FE0966.5020206@wwwdotorg.org> In-Reply-To: <53FE0966.5020206@wwwdotorg.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Am 27.08.2014 18:37, schrieb Stephen Warren: > Of course, there are probably cases where we could/should add some more > phandles/... and likewise cases where we shouldn't. That's why detailed > research is needed. Just because I'm curious, I wonder how this research does or shoud look like. Defered probes did come to light with 3.4, that was more than 2 years ago. Ok, most people (like me) just noticed it during the last months when they switched to DT and have run into a problem (the deferred probe mechanism is an error-message killer), but some must have seen it already 2 years ago. And I wonder how the ACPI world solves that problem. My guess would be hardcoded stuff in the firmware-blob (BIOS), just like it happened with board files, but I've never seen BIOS code and my knowledge about ACPI is almost zero. ;) Regards, Alexander Holler