From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753411AbaIJUSy (ORCPT ); Wed, 10 Sep 2014 16:18:54 -0400 Received: from terminus.zytor.com ([198.137.202.10]:57518 "EHLO mail.zytor.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752446AbaIJUSv (ORCPT ); Wed, 10 Sep 2014 16:18:51 -0400 Message-ID: <5410B1FE.9090504@zytor.com> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 13:18:06 -0700 From: "H. Peter Anvin" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: One Thousand Gnomes CC: Peter Hurley , Benjamin Herrenschmidt , David Laight , Jakub Jelinek , "linux-arch@vger.kernel.org" , Tony Luck , "linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org" , Oleg Nesterov , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , Paul Mackerras , "Paul E. McKenney" , "linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org" , Miroslav Franc , Richard Henderson , linux-alpha@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: bit fields && data tearing References: <20140712181328.GA8738@redhat.com> <54079B70.4050200@hurleysoftware.com> <1409785893.30640.118.camel@pasglop> <063D6719AE5E284EB5DD2968C1650D6D17487172@AcuExch.aculab.com> <1409824374.4246.62.camel@pasglop> <5408E458.3@zytor.com> <54090AF4.7060406@hurleysoftware.com> <54091B30.7080100@zytor.com> <5409D76D.2070203@hurleysoftware.com> <5409D9C0.7030403@zytor.com> <20140908185240.21f52ca0@alan.etchedpixels.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20140908185240.21f52ca0@alan.etchedpixels.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 09/08/2014 10:52 AM, One Thousand Gnomes wrote: > > I think the whole "removing Alpha EV5" support is basically bonkers. Just > use set_bit in the tty layer. Alpha will continue to work as well as it > always has done and you won't design out support for any future processor > that turns out not to do byte aligned stores. > I think it's pretty safe to say such a processor is unlikely to ever be created, for the same reason there weren't any 48-bit computers when 32-bit computers ran out of steam: it caused more problems than it solved, and Alpha pretty much proved that. The engineering advantages would have to be so overwhelmingly in favor for someone to want to walk down that road again. -hpa