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From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>,
	"Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)" <ljs@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-team@meta.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	liam@infradead.org, vbabka@kernel.org, jannh@google.com,
	wangjiexun@tinylab.org, sashiko-bot <sashiko-bot@kernel.org>,
	stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/madvise: reclaim isolated folios if PTE restart fails
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2026 16:48:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5437871c-d9ee-49d2-b24f-965c73c29c3e@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aqqk89oTigJ9LS2N@gourry-fedora-PF4VCD3F>

On 9/16/26 16:42, Gregory Price wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2026 at 03:12:53PM +0100, Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) wrote:
>>>
>>> Going to spend a little more time testing and tweaking before I post it.
>>>
>>> I've been working on a making more extensive unit tests for certain
>>> parts of mm/ and this might be a good time to look at whether I can
>>> introduce a piece of it.
>>
>> Nice, curious as to how?
>>
>> Have you tried the userland VMA tests btw? Not tooting my own horn so to
>> speak :P but it's nice, though it comes at a bit of a cost in how the files
>> have to be set up...
>>
> 
> Yes, in fact I used that as a start for exploring how I might make other
> components testable the same way.
> 
> "Stubs... stubs everywhere"
> 
> There's basically 4 testing mechanisms i explored:
> 
> 1) selftest
> 2) Usermode Linux (UML)
> 3) Userland stuff like VMA
> 4) Linux Test Project (for syscall and ABI testing)
> 
> selftests are really limited and actually create a maintenance burden,
> they're not real unit tests and are highly dependent on the actual
> machine configuration which is super annoying.
> 
> But, lets take the page allocator as an example.
> 
> The only piece of the page allocator that "should" (cough, simplifying
> here a bit) be machine specific is zone and node configurations... but
> I'm not convinced that this should require a full VM to unit-test.

I told Brendan exactly that (try stubbing it) and he tried ... and had to give
up at some point because it just wasn't feasible. ;)

-- 
Cheers,

David

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-16 14:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-12 11:08 Gregory Price
2026-09-15  6:32 ` Andrew Morton
2026-09-15 14:13   ` Gregory Price
2026-09-15 15:55 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-15 17:00   ` Gregory Price
2026-09-16 13:18     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-16 14:02       ` Gregory Price
2026-09-16 14:08         ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-15 17:12   ` Gregory Price
2026-09-16 13:03     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-16 13:57       ` Gregory Price
2026-09-16 14:12         ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-16 14:42           ` Gregory Price
2026-09-16 14:48             ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-09-16 14:58               ` Gregory Price
2026-09-16 14:59                 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-16 15:19                   ` Gregory Price
2026-09-16 15:21                     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-09-16 15:24                     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-16 15:37                       ` Gregory Price
2026-09-16 15:42                         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-16 16:10                           ` Gregory Price

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