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From: "Indan Zupancic" <indan@nul.nu>
To: "Theodore Tso" <tytso@mit.edu>, "Al Boldi" <a1426z@gawab.com>,
	linux-raid@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFH] Partition table recovery
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 23:23:24 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54649.81.207.0.53.1185139404.squirrel@secure.samage.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070722162802.GA20174@thunk.org>

On Sun, July 22, 2007 18:28, Theodore Tso wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 22, 2007 at 07:10:31AM +0300, Al Boldi wrote:
>> Sounds great, but it may be advisable to hook this into the partition
>> modification routines instead of mkfs/fsck.  Which would mean that the
>> partition manager could ask the kernel to instruct its fs subsystem to
>> update the backup partition table for each known fs-type that supports such
>> a feature.
>
> Well, let's think about this a bit.  What are the requirements?
>
> 1) The partition manager should be able explicitly request that a new
> backup of the partition tables be stashed in each filesystem that has
> room for such a backup.  That way, when the user affirmatively makes a
> partition table change, it can get backed up in all of the right
> places automatically.
>
> 2) The fsck program should *only* stash a backup of the partition
> table if there currently isn't one in the filesystem.  It may be that
> the partition table has been corrupted, and so merely doing an fsck
> should not transfer a current copy of the partition table to the
> filesystem-secpfic backup area.  It could be that the partition table
> was only partially recovered, and we don't want to overwrite the
> previously existing backups except on an explicit request from the
> system administrator.
>
> 3) The mkfs program should automatically create a backup of the
> current partition table layout.  That way we get a backup in the newly
> created filesystem as soon as it is created.
>
> 4) The exact location of the backup may vary from filesystem to
> filesystem.  For ext2/3/4, bytes 512-1023 are always unused, and don't
> interfere with the boot sector at bytes 0-511, so that's the obvious
> location.  Other filesystems may have that location in use, and some
> other location might be a better place to store it.  Ideally it will
> be a well-known location, that isn't dependent on finding an inode
> table, or some such, but that may not be possible for all filesystems.

To be on the safe side, maybe also add a checksum, timestamp and
something identifying the disk the filesystem was created on.

Regards,

Indan



  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-07-22 21:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-20  5:13 [RFH] Partion " Al Boldi
2007-07-20  5:20 ` Dave Young
2007-07-20  5:57   ` Dave Young
2007-07-20 11:29   ` [RFH] Partition " Al Boldi
2007-07-20  5:25 ` [RFH] Partion " James Lamanna
2007-07-20  7:00   ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2007-07-20 11:29   ` [RFH] Partition " Al Boldi
2007-07-20 11:53     ` Anton Altaparmakov
2007-07-20  5:35 ` [RFH] Partion " Willy Tarreau
2007-07-20  5:44   ` Dave Young
2007-07-20  7:03   ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-07-20 11:29     ` [RFH] Partition " Al Boldi
2007-07-20 11:39       ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2007-07-20 12:22         ` Al Boldi
2007-07-20 12:29           ` Rene Herman
2007-07-20 16:06           ` Theodore Tso
2007-07-21 17:54             ` Rene Herman
     [not found]               ` <20070722011141.GJ26752@thunk.org>
2007-07-22  4:10                 ` Al Boldi
2007-07-22 16:28                   ` Theodore Tso
2007-07-22 19:05                     ` Al Boldi
2007-07-22 21:23                     ` Indan Zupancic [this message]
2007-07-23  8:15                     ` Rene Herman
2007-07-23  8:41                       ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2007-07-23 10:54                         ` Rene Herman
2007-07-23 12:39                           ` Rene Herman
2007-07-23 13:15                             ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2007-07-23 13:32                               ` Rene Herman
2007-07-23 20:22                           ` Bill Davidsen
2007-07-23 13:58                       ` Theodore Tso
2007-07-24  4:08                         ` Rene Herman
2007-07-22  9:11                 ` Rene Herman
     [not found]                   ` <20070722163934.GB20174@thunk.org>
     [not found]                     ` <46A45A01.5050709@gmail.com>
2007-07-23 13:48                       ` Theodore Tso
2007-07-24  3:41                         ` Rene Herman
2007-07-20  6:47 ` [RFH] Partion " Jeffrey V. Merkey
2007-07-20 11:29   ` [RFH] Partition " Al Boldi
2007-07-20  7:35 ` [RFH] Partion " Anton Altaparmakov
2007-07-21 19:40   ` Willy Tarreau
2007-07-23 20:08 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-07-24  3:45   ` Rene Herman

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