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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	David.Laight@ACULAB.COM, carlos@redhat.com,
	Peter Oskolkov <posk@posk.io>,
	Alexander Mikhalitsyn <alexander@mihalicyn.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 00/25] RSEQ node id and virtual cpu id extensions
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2022 12:05:34 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55ade976-efac-3a89-f5e4-9008b7030388@efficios.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8735bv25k2.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com>

On 2022-10-10 09:04, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Mathieu Desnoyers:
> 
>> Extend the rseq ABI to expose a NUMA node ID and a vm_vcpu_id field.
>>
>> The NUMA node ID field allows implementing a faster getcpu(2) in libc.
>>
>> The virtual cpu id allows ideal scaling (down or up) of user-space
>> per-cpu data structures. The virtual cpu ids allocated within a memory
>> space are tracked by the scheduler, which takes into account the number
>> of concurrently running threads, thus implicitly considering the number
>> of threads, the cpu affinity, the cpusets applying to those threads, and
>> the number of logical cores on the system.
> 
> Do you have some code that shows how the userspace application handshake
> is supposed to work with the existing three __rseq_* symbols?  Maybe I'm
> missing something.

see https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220922105941.237830-5-mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com/

+static
+unsigned int get_rseq_feature_size(void)
+{
+	unsigned long auxv_rseq_feature_size, auxv_rseq_align;
+
+	auxv_rseq_align = getauxval(AT_RSEQ_ALIGN);
+	assert(!auxv_rseq_align || auxv_rseq_align <= RSEQ_THREAD_AREA_ALLOC_SIZE);
+
+	auxv_rseq_feature_size = getauxval(AT_RSEQ_FEATURE_SIZE);
+	assert(!auxv_rseq_feature_size || auxv_rseq_feature_size <= RSEQ_THREAD_AREA_ALLOC_SIZE);
+	if (auxv_rseq_feature_size)
+		return auxv_rseq_feature_size;
+	else
+		return ORIG_RSEQ_FEATURE_SIZE;
+}

then in rseq_init():

+	rseq_feature_size = get_rseq_feature_size();
+	if (rseq_feature_size == ORIG_RSEQ_FEATURE_SIZE)
+		rseq_size = ORIG_RSEQ_ALLOC_SIZE;
+	else
+		rseq_size = RSEQ_THREAD_AREA_ALLOC_SIZE;

Then using it for e.g. node_id:

https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220922105941.237830-6-mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com/

+#ifndef rseq_sizeof_field
+#define rseq_sizeof_field(TYPE, MEMBER) sizeof((((TYPE *)0)->MEMBER))
+#endif
+
+#ifndef rseq_offsetofend
+#define rseq_offsetofend(TYPE, MEMBER) \
+	(offsetof(TYPE, MEMBER)	+ rseq_sizeof_field(TYPE, MEMBER))
+#endif

+static inline bool rseq_node_id_available(void)
+{
+	return (int) rseq_feature_size >= rseq_offsetofend(struct rseq_abi, node_id);
+}
+
+/*
+ * Current NUMA node number.
+ */
+static inline uint32_t rseq_current_node_id(void)
+{
+	assert(rseq_node_id_available());
+	return RSEQ_ACCESS_ONCE(rseq_get_abi()->node_id);
+}

> 
>  From an application perspective, it would be best to add 8 more shared
> bytes in use, to push the new feature size over 32.  This would be
> clearly visible in __rseq_size, helping applications a lot.

[ I guess you meant 12 bytes ]

The fool-proof approach here would be to skip the 12 bytes of padding
currently at the end of struct rseq.

Maybe this is something we should do in order to make sure the userspace
check is regular for all fields.

> 
> Alternatively, we could sacrifice a bit to indicate that the this round
> of extensions is present.  But we'll need another bit to indicate that
> the last remaining 4 bytes are in use, for consistency.  Or come up with
> something to put their today.  The TID seems like an obvious choice.

Whatever we add into those bits would need to be "special" and use
something like a flag check to validate whether the field is populated
or not. Perhaps keeping things simpler and skipping those 12 bytes
entirely is preferable.

> 
> If we want to the 8 more bytes route, TID and PID should be
> uncontroversal?  The PID cache is clearly something that userspace
> likes, not just as a defeat device for the old BYTE benchmark.

I agree that having the PID and TID there might be relevant, but I
would rather prefer to have all fields use a check that is regular
from the point of view of userspace. This minimizes the risk of user
errors.

Thoughts ?

Thanks,

Mathieu


> 
> Thanks,
> Florian
> 

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
https://www.efficios.com


      reply	other threads:[~2022-10-17 16:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-22 10:59 Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-09-22 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 01/25] rseq: Introduce feature size and alignment ELF auxiliary vector entries Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-10-10 12:42   ` Florian Weimer
2022-10-17 16:09     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-10-17 17:32       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-10-18 15:34         ` Florian Weimer
2022-10-18 19:00           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-09-22 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 02/25] rseq: Introduce extensible rseq ABI Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-09-22 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 03/25] rseq: Extend struct rseq with numa node id Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-09-23 11:13   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-09-23 13:00     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-09-23 13:09     ` [PATCH v4.1 03/25 1/1] " Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-09-22 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 04/25] selftests/rseq: Use ELF auxiliary vector for extensible rseq Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-09-22 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 05/25] selftests/rseq: Implement rseq numa node id field selftest Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-09-22 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 06/25] lib: Invert _find_next_bit source arguments Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-09-27  8:04   ` kernel test robot
2022-09-22 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 07/25] lib: Implement find_{first,next}_{zero,one}_and_zero_bit Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-09-22 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 08/25] cpumask: Implement cpumask_{first,next}_{zero,one}_and_zero Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-09-22 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 09/25] sched: Introduce per memory space current virtual cpu id Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-09-27 13:43   ` [PATCH v4.1 " Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-09-22 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 10/25] rseq: Extend struct rseq with per memory space vcpu id Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-09-22 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 11/25] selftests/rseq: Remove RSEQ_SKIP_FASTPATH code Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-09-22 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 12/25] selftests/rseq: Implement rseq vm_vcpu_id field support Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-09-22 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 13/25] selftests/rseq: x86: Template memory ordering and percpu access mode Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-09-22 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 14/25] selftests/rseq: arm: " Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-09-22 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 15/25] selftests/rseq: arm64: " Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-09-22 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 16/25] selftests/rseq: mips: " Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-09-22 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 17/25] selftests/rseq: ppc: " Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-09-22 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 18/25] selftests/rseq: s390: " Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-09-22 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 19/25] selftests/rseq: riscv: " Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-09-22 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 20/25] selftests/rseq: Implement basic percpu ops vm_vcpu_id test Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-09-22 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 21/25] selftests/rseq: Implement parametrized " Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-09-22 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 22/25] selftests/rseq: x86: Implement rseq_load_u32_u32 Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-09-22 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 23/25] selftests/rseq: Implement numa node id vs vm_vcpu_id invariant test Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-09-22 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 24/25] selftests/rseq: parametrized test: Report/abort on negative cpu id Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-09-22 10:59 ` [PATCH v4 25/25] tracing/rseq: Add mm_vcpu_id field to rseq_update Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-09-22 15:14   ` kernel test robot
2022-09-22 15:33     ` [PATCH v4.1 " Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-09-23  9:55   ` [PATCH v4 " kernel test robot
     [not found] ` <e753568d-599c-d81a-8456-085bbbb0264d@efficios.com>
     [not found]   ` <CAEE+ybnLUHjU5-dWcWgcWiq-AM4ocquSbZ=PWiuexEsPB8P5Gw@mail.gmail.com>
2022-09-23 13:46     ` [PATCH v4 00/25] RSEQ node id and virtual cpu id extensions Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-10-10 13:04 ` Florian Weimer
2022-10-17 16:05   ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]

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