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From: Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@gmail.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: "Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" <willy@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, pmladek@suse.com,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 31/32] tracing: Convert to printbuf
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2022 11:15:31 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55e6e42f-b3ea-d9d0-4611-f13b3b88acab@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220808093750.4dd24af2@gandalf.local.home>

On 8/8/22 09:37, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 23:32:01 -0400
> Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>> Please remove the two tracing patches and the deletion of the seq_buf from
>>> the series.
>>
>> Well, that's not really an option, as Christoph already (rightly)
>> pointed out.
> 
> These are the last patches of the series. There's no dependency on them.
> You should be able to simply drop them. If others find that these patches
> are worth their while then by all means, let them have them.
> 
>>
>> If you've got actual engineering concerns that you'd care to articulate
>> I'd (still) like to try to work with you - otherwise, I don't think this
>> is something I can accommodate you on.
> 
> Here's my technical reason. These are non trivial changes that are replacing
> code that has been stable for 8 years that the tracing infrastructure
> highly depends on. I do not have the time to sit down and review this code
> as it is not a priority. My time is extremely limited (as my wife keeps
> complaining to me about, as I'm not spending enough time with the family).
> 
> This change is likely to cause subtle regressions for no benefit to the
> tracing subsystem. Hence, when it comes to risk vs reward, I see none.

It sounds like you're saying you don't have time to maintain your 
subsystem..? Is there anyone else actively co-maintaining tracing? Part 
of our jobs is bringing new people in and training them (and not 
providing a hostile work environment so they'll want to), maybe 
something to think about.

I'm also not seeing the likelihood of subtle regressions - this isn't my 
first kernel refactoring and not _nearly_ the biggest or the most 
invasive. There's definitely some stuff in the tracing code code that is 
a bit on the unorthodox side, but nothing too crazy. The code's been in 
my tree for ages where I use tracing on a daily basis, and it passes 
your test suite (and there was just one bug that made it through to be 
caught by the tests, as I mentioned in the cover letter).

Anyways, if you've got specific, actionable concerns, I'll be happy to 
take a look. Otherwise... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Cheers

  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-08 15:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-08  2:40 [PATCH v5 00/32] Printbufs Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-08-08  2:40 ` [PATCH v5 01/32] lib/printbuf: New data structure for printing strings Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-08-08  2:40 ` [PATCH v5 02/32] lib/string_helpers: Convert string_escape_mem() to printbuf Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-08-08 12:03   ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-08-08 14:58     ` Kent Overstreet
2022-08-08  2:40 ` [PATCH v5 03/32] vsprintf: Convert " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-08-08  2:41 ` [PATCH v5 04/32] lib/hexdump: " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-08-08  2:41 ` [PATCH v5 05/32] lib/string_helpers: string_get_size() now returns characters wrote Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-08-08 13:08   ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-08-08  2:41 ` [PATCH v5 06/32] lib/printbuf: Heap allocation Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-08-08  2:41 ` [PATCH v5 07/32] lib/printbuf: Tabstops, indenting Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-08-08  2:41 ` [PATCH v5 08/32] lib/printbuf: Unit specifiers Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-08-08  2:41 ` [PATCH v5 09/32] vsprintf: Improve number() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-08-08  2:41 ` [PATCH v5 10/32] vsprintf: prt_u64_minwidth(), prt_u64() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-08-08  2:41 ` [PATCH v5 11/32] test_printf: Drop requirement that sprintf not write past nul Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-08-08  2:41 ` [PATCH v5 12/32] vsprintf: Start consolidating printf_spec handling Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-08-08  2:41 ` [PATCH v5 13/32] vsprintf: Refactor resource_string() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-08-08  2:41 ` [PATCH v5 14/32] vsprintf: Refactor fourcc_string() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-08-08  2:41 ` [PATCH v5 15/32] vsprintf: Refactor ip_addr_string() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-08-08  2:41 ` [PATCH v5 16/32] vsprintf: Refactor mac_address_string() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-08-08  2:41 ` [PATCH v5 17/32] vsprintf: time_and_date() no longer takes printf_spec Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-08-08  2:41 ` [PATCH v5 18/32] vsprintf: flags_string() " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-08-08  2:41 ` [PATCH v5 19/32] vsprintf: Refactor device_node_string, fwnode_string Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-08-08  2:41 ` [PATCH v5 20/32] vsprintf: Refactor hex_string, bitmap_string_list, bitmap_string Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-08-08  2:41 ` [PATCH v5 21/32] Input/joystick/analog: Convert from seq_buf -> printbuf Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-08-11  1:37   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2022-08-08  2:41 ` [PATCH v5 22/32] mm/memcontrol.c: Convert to printbuf Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-08-08  9:48   ` Michal Hocko
2022-08-08 12:48     ` Michal Hocko
2022-08-08  2:41 ` [PATCH v5 23/32] clk: tegra: bpmp: " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-08-08  2:41 ` [PATCH v5 24/32] tools/testing/nvdimm: " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-08-08 18:30   ` Dan Williams
2022-08-08 18:33     ` Kent Overstreet
2022-08-08  2:41 ` [PATCH v5 25/32] powerpc: " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-08-08  2:41 ` [PATCH v5 26/32] x86/resctrl: " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-08-08  2:41 ` [PATCH v5 27/32] PCI/P2PDMA: " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-08-08 17:51   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2022-08-08 18:42     ` Kent Overstreet
2022-08-09  2:07       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2022-08-09  8:00         ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-08-08  2:41 ` [PATCH v5 28/32] tracing: trace_events_synth: " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-08-08  2:41 ` [PATCH v5 29/32] d_path: prt_path() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-08-08  4:17   ` Al Viro
2022-08-08  4:27     ` Kent Overstreet
2022-08-08  2:41 ` [PATCH v5 30/32] ACPI/APEI: Add missing include Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-08-08 14:09   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2022-08-08  2:41 ` [PATCH v5 31/32] tracing: Convert to printbuf Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-08-08  2:51   ` Steven Rostedt
2022-08-08  3:32     ` Kent Overstreet
2022-08-08 13:37       ` Steven Rostedt
2022-08-08 15:15         ` Kent Overstreet [this message]
2022-08-08 15:25           ` Steven Rostedt
2022-08-08  2:41 ` [PATCH v5 32/32] Delete seq_buf Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-09-23  7:10 ` [PATCH v5 00/32] Printbufs Petr Mladek
2022-09-24  1:39   ` Kent Overstreet

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