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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: ACPI Devel Maling List <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Kristen C. Accardi" <kristen.c.accardi@intel.com>,
	Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] ACPI / PM: Expose lists of device power resources to user space
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 15:00:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5602050.KDl1yUI4oH@vostro.rjw.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130123010359.GA2024@kroah.com>

On Tuesday, January 22, 2013 05:03:59 PM Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 01:17:47AM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > On Wednesday, January 23, 2013 01:08:54 AM Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, January 22, 2013 03:56:24 PM Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 03:28:23AM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > 
> > [...]
> > 
> > > > Oh, and same question about racing userspace, you will have problems
> > > > here in that the symlinks will be showing up after the device is
> > > > created.  Perhaps, to make the whole thing easier, you just change the
> > > > acpi core code to hold off on the notification until you get all of
> > > > these links and files set up and then tell userspace.  That's probably
> > > > an easier fix.
> > > 
> > > I suppose so.
> > > 
> > > How can I do that?
> > 
> > Should I set dev->kobj.uevent_suppress before calling device_register() and
> > then clear it and call the kobject_uevent(&dev->kobj, KOBJ_ADD) from the ACPI
> > core after device_register() has returned and the files have been created?
> 
> Ick, that might work, but the "traditional" way is to just do the
> creation of the device in two steps.
> 
> First call device_initialize().  Then you can do what you want to the
> device, add sysfs files, etc.  Then call device_add() which "finalizes"
> the device in the driver core and tells userspace all about it.

Well, this quite obviously doesn't work. :-)

If I call acpi_device_setup_files() between device_initialize() and
device_add(), it will trigger the BUG_ON() in sysfs_create_file(), because
kobj->sd is still NULL at this point.

> The USB core has been doing this since the beginning of time (well, since we
> wrote the driver model) and it has worked out pretty well.

I guess it does something slightly different from what I need to do, however.

> Calling dev_set_uevent_suppress() would also probably work, like you
> point out the firmware core uses this.

I think I'll need to use this approach.  I think that it still will be prudent
to call device_initialize() before dev_set_uevent_suppress(), though.

I'll post a new series including this later today.

> Hm, it uses this to create some sysfs files and then tell userspace about
> them, even though it uses device_add(), that's "odd".

Well, it seems to have the same problem as I do (described above).
 
> Either way should be fine, you can run 'udevadm monitor' as root to
> watch the sysfs events be sent from the kernel to make sure you have it
> all working properly.

Unfortunately, core ACPI device objects are created way too early for user
space to be useful and I don't have any systems with ACPI-based hotplug around
here ...

Thanks,
Rafael


-- 
I speak only for myself.
Rafael J. Wysocki, Intel Open Source Technology Center.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-23 13:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-20 14:51 [RFC][PATCH 0/3] ACPI / PM: Export power resources information " Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-20 14:53 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/3] ACPI / PM: Expose reference count values of ACPI power resources Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-20 14:54 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/3] sysfs: Functions for adding/removing symlinks to/from attribute groups Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-20 14:57 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/3] ACPI / PM: Expose lists of device power resources to user space Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-20 23:37 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/3] ACPI / PM: Export power resources information " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-01-21  0:11   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-21  0:48 ` [RFC][Update][PATCH " Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-21  0:50   ` [RFC][Update][PATCH 1/3] ACPI / PM: Expose reference count values of ACPI power resources Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-21  0:51   ` [RFC][Update][PATCH 2/3] sysfs: Functions for adding/removing symlinks to/from attribute groups Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-21  0:53   ` [RFC][Update][PATCH 3/3] ACPI / PM: Expose lists of device power resources to user space Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-21 13:03   ` [RFC][Update 2][PATCH 0/4] ACPI / PM: Export power information " Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-21 13:04     ` [RFC][Update 2][PATCH 1/4] ACPI / PM: Export power states of ACPI devices via sysfs Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-21 20:53       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-01-21 22:27         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-21 22:26           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-01-21 22:59             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-21 23:08               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-01-22  0:48                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-21 13:05     ` [RFC][Update 2][PATCH 2/4] ACPI / PM: Expose reference count values of ACPI power resources Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-21 20:53       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-01-21 22:35         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-21 22:33           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-01-21 13:06     ` [RFC][Update 2][PATCH 3/4] sysfs: Functions for adding/removing symlinks to/from attribute groups Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-21 20:58       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-01-21 22:41         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-21 22:38           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-01-21 13:08     ` [RFC][Update 2][PATCH 4/4] ACPI / PM: Expose lists of device power resources to user space Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-21 20:58       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-01-21 22:42         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-22  2:15     ` [PATCH 0/4] ACPI / PM: Export power information " Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-22  2:25       ` [PATCH 1/4] ACPI / PM: Expose power states of ACPI devices " Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-22 23:42         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-01-22 23:47         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-01-23  0:01           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-22 23:58             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-01-22  2:26       ` [PATCH 2/4] ACPI / PM: Expose current status of ACPI power resources Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-22 23:49         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-01-22  2:27       ` [PATCH 3/4] sysfs: Functions for adding/removing symlinks to/from attribute groups Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-22 23:51         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-01-23  0:03           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-22  2:28       ` [PATCH 4/4] ACPI / PM: Expose lists of device power resources to user space Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-22 23:56         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-01-23  0:08           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-23  0:17             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-23  0:28               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-23  1:05                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-01-23 14:01                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-23  1:03               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-01-23 14:00                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2013-01-23 17:56       ` [Update][PATCH 0/5] ACPI / PM: Export power information " Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-23 17:58         ` [Update][PATCH 1/5] ACPI / scan: Prevent device add uevents from racing with " Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-24  0:33           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-01-23 17:59         ` [Update][PATCH 2/5] ACPI / PM: Expose power states of ACPI devices to " Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-23 18:00         ` [Update][PATCH 3/5] ACPI / PM: Expose current status of ACPI power resources Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-23 18:00         ` [Update][PATCH 4/5] sysfs: Functions for adding/removing symlinks to/from attribute groups Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-24  0:33           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-01-25 20:13           ` [patch] sysfs: Fix build when sysfs is disabled David Rientjes
2013-01-25 20:42             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-01-25 20:53               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-25 20:52             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-25 21:34               ` David Rientjes
2013-01-23 18:01         ` [Update][PATCH 5/5] ACPI / PM: Expose lists of device power resources to user space Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-01-24  0:34           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-01-24  0:34         ` [Update][PATCH 0/5] ACPI / PM: Export power information " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-01-24 12:34           ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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