From: Chris J Arges <chris.j.arges@canonical.com>
To: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>, Miroslav Benes <mbenes@suse.cz>
Cc: live-patching@vger.kernel.org, jeyu@redhat.com,
Seth Jennings <sjenning@redhat.com>,
Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>, Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.com>,
linux-api@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] livepatch: old_name.number scheme in livepatch sysfs directory
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2015 10:17:52 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <563A2FB0.60101@canonical.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151104160354.GA29899@treble.redhat.com>
On 11/04/2015 10:03 AM, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 04, 2015 at 10:52:52AM +0100, Miroslav Benes wrote:
>> On Tue, 3 Nov 2015, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
>>>> Object entry would be empty for not loaded object. I would not
>>>> dare to propose to remove such object entries. It would make things worse.
>>>
>>> Why would removing an empty object entry make things worse?
>>
>> I think it all comes down to a question whether the sysfs entries say what
>> a patch is capable to patch or what this patch is currently patching in
>> the system. I am inclined to the former so the removal would make me
>> nervous. But I am not against the second approach. We are still in testing
>> mode as far as sysfs is concerned so we can try even harsh changes and see
>> how it's gonna go.
>
> I see your point. This approach only describes what is patched now, but
> it doesn't describe what *will* be patched. Ideally we could find a way
> to describe both.
>
> Speaking of harsh changes, here's an idea.
>
> What if we require the patch author to supply the value of 'n' instead
> of supplying the symbol address? We could get rid of 'old_addr' as an
> input in klp_func and and replace it with 'old_sympos' which has the
> value of 'n'. Or alternatively we could require old_name to be of the
> format "func,n".
I like the idea of old_sympos better than modifying the string.
In addition if no old_sympos is specified then it should default to 0,
since this will probably be the more common case.
>
> That would uniquely identify each patched function, even _before_ the
> object is loaded.
>
> It would also fix another big problem we have today, where there's no
> way to disambiguate duplicate symbols in modules, for both function
> addresses and for relocs.
>
> It would simplify the code in other places as well: no special handling
> for kASLR, no need for klp_verify_vmlinux_symbol() vs
> klp_find_object_symbol().
>
> A drawback is that it requires the patch author to do a little more due
> diligence when filling out klp_func. But we already require them to be
> careful.
>
> Thoughts?
>
I'll hold off on my v3 for now. Very interesting discussion : ).
--chris
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-11-04 16:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-11-02 17:58 [PATCH] " Chris J Arges
2015-11-02 19:15 ` Jessica Yu
2015-11-02 19:52 ` [PATCH] " Josh Poimboeuf
2015-11-02 20:16 ` Chris J Arges
2015-11-02 20:32 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-11-02 22:59 ` [PATCH v2] " Chris J Arges
2015-11-03 9:50 ` Miroslav Benes
2015-11-03 15:03 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-11-03 10:52 ` Miroslav Benes
2015-11-03 12:44 ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-03 15:03 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-11-03 19:57 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-11-03 20:06 ` Josh Poimboeuf
[not found] ` <1447259366-7055-1-git-send-email-chris.j.arges@canonical.com>
2015-11-11 16:28 ` [PATCH 1/3 v4] livepatch: add old_sympos as disambiguator field to klp_func Chris J Arges
2015-11-11 17:43 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-11-12 10:22 ` Miroslav Benes
2015-11-11 16:29 ` [PATCH 2/3 v4] livepatch: add old_sympos as disambiguator field to klp_reloc Chris J Arges
2015-11-11 16:39 ` Chris J Arges
2015-11-11 17:57 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-11-12 14:31 ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-12 19:19 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-11-13 13:54 ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-13 16:59 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-11-16 12:11 ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-12 10:23 ` Miroslav Benes
2015-11-11 16:29 ` [PATCH 3/3 v4] livepatch: old_name,number scheme in livepatch sysfs directory Chris J Arges
2015-11-11 18:01 ` Josh Poimboeuf
[not found] ` <1447347595-30728-1-git-send-email-chris.j.arges@canonical.com>
2015-11-12 16:59 ` [PATCH 1/4 v5] livepatch: add old_sympos as disambiguator field to klp_func Chris J Arges
2015-11-12 19:45 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-11-13 9:56 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-11-13 10:14 ` Miroslav Benes
2015-11-13 16:27 ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-12 16:59 ` [PATCH 2/4 v5] livepatch: Simplify code for relocated external symbols Chris J Arges
2015-11-13 10:24 ` Miroslav Benes
2015-11-13 13:55 ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-12 16:59 ` [PATCH 3/4 v5] livepatch: add sympos as disambiguator field to klp_reloc Chris J Arges
2015-11-12 19:50 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-11-13 16:42 ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-12 16:59 ` [PATCH 4/4 v5] livepatch: function,sympos scheme in livepatch sysfs directory Chris J Arges
[not found] ` <1447431804-18786-1-git-send-email-chris.j.arges@canonical.com>
2015-11-13 16:23 ` [PATCH 1/3 v6] livepatch: add old_sympos as disambiguator field to klp_func Chris J Arges
2015-11-13 16:23 ` [PATCH 2/3 v6] livepatch: add sympos as disambiguator field to klp_reloc Chris J Arges
2015-11-13 16:23 ` [PATCH 3/3 v6] livepatch: function,sympos scheme in livepatch sysfs directory Chris J Arges
[not found] ` <1447693391-10065-1-git-send-email-chris.j.arges@canonical.com>
2015-11-16 17:03 ` [PATCH 1/3 v7] livepatch: add old_sympos as disambiguator field to klp_func Chris J Arges
2015-11-16 21:59 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-11-17 14:29 ` Chris J Arges
2015-11-19 10:02 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-11-16 17:03 ` [PATCH 2/3 v7] livepatch: add sympos as disambiguator field to klp_reloc Chris J Arges
2015-11-18 9:56 ` Miroslav Benes
2015-11-18 14:01 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-11-18 16:47 ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 16:37 ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 16:39 ` Chris J Arges
2015-11-18 16:55 ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 20:34 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-11-16 17:03 ` [PATCH 3/3 v7] livepatch: function,sympos scheme in livepatch sysfs directory Chris J Arges
2015-11-20 17:25 ` [PATCH 0/3 v8] livepatch: disambiguate symbols with the same name Chris J Arges
2015-11-20 17:25 ` [PATCH 1/3 v8] livepatch: add old_sympos as disambiguator field to klp_func Chris J Arges
2015-11-23 9:47 ` Miroslav Benes
2015-11-20 17:25 ` [PATCH 2/3 v8] livepatch: add sympos as disambiguator field to klp_reloc Chris J Arges
2015-11-23 9:52 ` Miroslav Benes
2015-11-30 20:46 ` Chris J Arges
2015-12-01 1:17 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-11-20 17:25 ` [PATCH 3/3 v8] livepatch: function,sympos scheme in livepatch sysfs directory Chris J Arges
2015-11-23 9:47 ` Miroslav Benes
2015-12-02 2:40 ` [PATCH 0/3 v9] livepatch: disambiguate symbols with the same name Chris J Arges
2015-12-02 2:40 ` [PATCH 1/3 v9] livepatch: add old_sympos as disambiguator field to klp_func Chris J Arges
2015-12-02 2:40 ` [PATCH 2/3 v9] livepatch: add sympos as disambiguator field to klp_reloc Chris J Arges
2015-12-14 12:45 ` Miroslav Benes
2015-12-02 2:40 ` [PATCH 3/3 v9] livepatch: function,sympos scheme in livepatch sysfs directory Chris J Arges
2015-12-02 15:28 ` [PATCH 0/3 v9] livepatch: disambiguate symbols with the same name Petr Mladek
2015-12-03 17:59 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-12-03 22:04 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-11-03 14:58 ` [PATCH v2] livepatch: old_name.number scheme in livepatch sysfs directory Josh Poimboeuf
2015-11-03 16:09 ` Miroslav Benes
2015-11-03 16:50 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-11-03 20:42 ` Chris J Arges
2015-11-04 9:52 ` Miroslav Benes
2015-11-04 16:03 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-11-04 16:17 ` Chris J Arges [this message]
2015-11-05 15:18 ` Miroslav Benes
2015-11-05 15:56 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-11-05 16:07 ` Chris J Arges
2015-11-09 16:16 ` [PATCH v3] livepatch: old_name,number " Chris J Arges
2015-11-09 20:56 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-11-09 23:01 ` Chris J Arges
2015-11-10 4:54 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-11-10 8:49 ` Miroslav Benes
2015-11-10 13:40 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-11-10 9:02 ` Miroslav Benes
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