From: John Harrison <John.C.Harrison@Intel.com>
To: "Gustavo Padovan" <gustavo@padovan.org>,
"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, devel@driverdev.osuosl.org,
dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, daniels@collabora.com,
"Arve Hjønnevåg" <arve@android.com>,
"Riley Andrews" <riandrews@android.com>,
"Rob Clark" <robdclark@gmail.com>,
"Greg Hackmann" <ghackmann@google.com>,
"Maarten Lankhorst" <maarten.lankhorst@canonical.com>,
"Gustavo Padovan" <gustavo.padovan@collabora.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [RFC 00/29] De-stage android's sync framework
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 16:12:18 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <569E6062.6030309@Intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160119152309.GA8217@joana>
On 19/01/2016 15:23, Gustavo Padovan wrote:
> Hi Daniel,
>
> 2016-01-19 Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>:
>
>> On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 12:55:10PM -0200, Gustavo Padovan wrote:
>>> From: Gustavo Padovan <gustavo.padovan@collabora.co.uk>
>>>
>>> This patch series de-stage the sync framework, and in order to accomplish that
>>> a bunch of cleanups/improvements on the sync and fence were made.
>>>
>>> The sync framework contained some abstractions around struct fence and those
>>> were removed in the de-staging process among other changes:
>>>
>>> Userspace visible changes
>>> -------------------------
>>>
>>> * The sw_sync file was moved from /dev/sw_sync to <debugfs>/sync/sw_sync. No
>>> other change.
>>>
>>> Kernel API changes
>>> ------------------
>>>
>>> * struct sync_timeline is now struct fence_timeline
>>> * sync_timeline_ops is now fence_timeline_ops and they now carry struct
>>> fence as parameter instead of struct sync_pt
>>> * a .cleanup() fence op was added to allow sync_fence to run a cleanup when
>>> the fence_timeline is destroyed
>>> * added fence_add_used_data() to pass a private point to struct fence. This
>>> pointer is sent back on the .cleanup op.
>>> * The sync timeline function were moved to be fence_timeline functions:
>>> - sync_timeline_create() -> fence_timeline_create()
>>> - sync_timeline_get() -> fence_timeline_get()
>>> - sync_timeline_put() -> fence_timeline_put()
>>> - sync_timeline_destroy() -> fence_timeline_destroy()
>>> - sync_timeline_signal() -> fence_timeline_signal()
>>>
>>> * sync_pt_create() was replaced be fence_create_on_timeline()
>>>
>>> Internal changes
>>> ----------------
>>>
>>> * fence_timeline_ops was removed in favor of direct use fence_ops
>>> * fence default functions were created for fence_ops
>>> * removed structs sync_pt, sw_sync_timeline and sw_sync_pt
>> Bunch of fairly random comments all over:
>>
>> - include/uapi/linux/sw_sync.h imo should be dropped, it's just a private
>> debugfs interface between fence fds and the testsuite. Since the plan is
>> to have the testcases integrated into the kernel tree too we don't need
>> a public header.
>>
>> - similar for include/linux/sw_sync.h Imo that should all be moved into
>> sync_debug.c. Same for sw_sync.c, that should all land in sync_debug
>> imo, and made optional with a Kconfig option. At least we should reuse
>> CONFIG_DEBUGFS.
> These two items sounds reasonable to me.
I have just posted our in-progress IGT for testing i915 syncs (with a CC
of Gustavo). It uses the sw_sync mechanisms. Can you take a quick look
and see if it is the kind of thing you would expect us to be doing? Or
is it using interfaces that you are planning to remove and/or make
kernel only?
I'm not sure having a kernel only test is the best way to go. Having
user land tests like IGT would be much more versatile.
>> - fence_context and fence_timeline are really the same. timeline has some
>> super-basic support for doing sw-only fence timelines, but imo that's
>> not really worth keeping (and if so better to keep seperate in a
>> sw-fence.c or similar, like seqno-fence.c). The other main thing
>> timeline provides is support to clean up fences on a timeline. And imo
>> that cleanup should be done by the core fence support, not by the add-on
>> stuff.
> Yes, they are. But I currently doesn't know how to merge them best, so I
> decided to go for a RFC instead of trying some crazy solution touching
> all fence_context users.
>
>> Interlude about fence cleanup on driver unload:
>>
>> Working drivers imo should never call timeline_destroy when there's still
>> an unsignalled fence around for that timeline/context. That just means
>> they're broken and failed to clean up all the pending work. So the problem
>> really is only what to do with fences where the driver disappeared, and
>> for that we essentially need a fence_revoke() function (which could be
>> called internally from timeline_free). So here's what I think
>> timeline_free should do:
>>
>> for_each_fence_on_timel() {
>> WARN_ON(!fence_is_signalled());
>>
>> fence_revoke(fence);
>> }
>>
>> Implementing fence_revoke is a bit tricky since we need to make sure the
>> memory contained ->ops and similar stuff doesn't disappear. Simplest
>> option might be to grab a temporary reference (using
>> kref_get_unless_zero), and then exchange ->ops with one that has only a
>> release function. We don't need anything else as long as all fence_*
>> functions the kernel might call check for signalling correctly first
>> (fence_wait is broken at least).
>>
>> Or we just give up (for now) and declare module unload as slightly racy.
>> dma-buf is similar. An intermediate option might be to at least add a
>> THIS_MODULE reference to each fence (but that's a bit expensive ...).
> I'd say we just give up for now as we don't have any driver using
> timeline_destroy for now. So we could go for other improvements first.
>
>> - back to timeline vs. context: I have no idea how to best clean up this
>> mess, but least painful option long-term is probably to switch over all
>> current users of fence_context_alloc to timelines and remove the plain
>> context interface.
> Agreed.
>
>> - Imo the interface in include/linux/sync.h is duplicating too much of
>> fence.h. I think the only bits we need are the refcounting, creating,
>> fd-install and that's it. Plus a macro to loop over all the fences in a
>> sync_fence. With that drivers will only ever deal with a pile of
>> struct fence, making implicit fencing (using the fence list in dma-buf)
>> and explicit fencing (using the fence list in sync_fence) much more
>> similar.
> Yes, most of the sync_fence waiting should not be exported. Drivers
> should only wait for fence imo, not sync_fences.
>
>> And we can easily do that since no internal users ;-)
>>
>> - get_timeline_name and get_driver_name are imo too much indirection, just
>> add ->(drv_)name field to each of these.
>>
>> - struct sync_fence is a major confusion imo against struct fence. It
>> made much more sense in the pure-android world where fence == sync_pt.
>> Maybe we can rename sync_fence to sync_fence_fd (a bit long, and fd is a
>> bit inaccurate), sync_file (like this best), fence_file (sounds silly
>> imo), or something else?
> sync_file sounds good for me. fence_file feels like it a file for a
> single fence but we may have many fences on one sync_file.
>
>> - I guess just not yet part of this rfc, but moving the testsuite and
>> adding kerneldoc for this is planned I guess? If you feel like I think
>> it'd be best. We pull the current dma-buf stuff into
>> device-drivers.tmpl, but it's completely lacking overview docs and all
>> that. And I'd like to duplicate at least the dma-buf/fence sections into
>> the gpu.tmpl docbook.
> We have converted testsuite from android's libsync but we need to wait
> for Google to re-license it to send it upstream.
>
> kerneldoc is planned for sure, but I'd say it will be better to have
> some users first, DRM for example.
>
>> - If we make timelines first class objects I think we could move some of
>> the fields from struct fence to struct fence_timeline. E.g. the ops
>> struct. That also makes it clearer that some of the vfuncs really should
>> be taking a struct fence_timeline *timeline instead of a struct fence
>> *fence as their primary parameter.
> I'll keep that as a final goal and work RFC v2 and see how far we can
> get.
>
> Gustavo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-01-19 16:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-01-15 14:55 Gustavo Padovan
2016-01-15 14:55 ` [RFC 01/29] staging/android: fix sync framework documentation Gustavo Padovan
2016-01-15 14:55 ` [RFC 02/29] staging/android: fix checkpatch warning Gustavo Padovan
2016-01-15 14:55 ` [RFC 03/29] staging/android: rename sync_fence_release Gustavo Padovan
2016-01-15 14:55 ` [RFC 04/29] staging/android: rename 'android_fence' to 'sync_fence' Gustavo Padovan
2016-01-15 14:55 ` [RFC 05/29] staging/android: remove not used sync_timeline ops Gustavo Padovan
2016-01-15 14:55 ` [RFC 06/29] staging/android: create a 'sync' dir for debugfs information Gustavo Padovan
2016-01-15 14:55 ` [RFC 07/29] staging/android: move sw_sync file to debugfs file Gustavo Padovan
2016-01-15 14:55 ` [RFC 08/29] staging/android: Remove WARN_ON_ONCE when releasing sync_fence Gustavo Padovan
2016-01-15 14:55 ` [RFC 09/29] staging/android: rename struct sync_fence's variables to 'sync_fence' Gustavo Padovan
2016-01-15 14:55 ` [RFC 10/29] staging/android: rename 'sync_pt' to 'fence' in struct sync_fence_cb Gustavo Padovan
2016-01-15 14:55 ` [RFC 11/29] dma-buf/fence: move sync_timeline to fence_timeline Gustavo Padovan
2016-01-20 0:56 ` Greg Hackmann
2016-01-15 14:55 ` [RFC 12/29] staging/android: remove struct sync_pt Gustavo Padovan
2016-01-15 14:55 ` [RFC 13/29] dma-buf/fence: create fence_default_enable_signaling() Gustavo Padovan
2016-01-15 14:55 ` [RFC 14/29] dma-buf/fence: create fence_default_release() Gustavo Padovan
2016-01-15 14:55 ` [RFC 15/29] dma-buf/fence: create fence_default_get_driver_name() Gustavo Padovan
2016-01-15 14:55 ` [RFC 16/29] dma-buf/fence: create fence_default_timeline_name() Gustavo Padovan
2016-01-15 14:55 ` [RFC 17/29] dma-buf/fence: store last signaled value on fence timeline Gustavo Padovan
2016-01-15 14:55 ` [RFC 18/29] dma-buf/fence: create default .fence_value_str() and .timeline_value_str() Gustavo Padovan
2016-01-15 14:55 ` [RFC 19/29] dma-buf/fence: create fence_default_fill_driver_data() Gustavo Padovan
2016-01-15 14:55 ` [RFC 20/29] dma-buf/fence: remove fence_timeline_ops Gustavo Padovan
2016-01-15 14:55 ` [RFC 21/29] dma-buf/fence: add fence_create_on_timeline() Gustavo Padovan
2016-01-15 14:55 ` [RFC 22/29] staging/android: remove sync_pt_create() Gustavo Padovan
2016-01-15 14:55 ` [RFC 23/29] staging/android: remove sw_sync_timeline and sw_sync_pt Gustavo Padovan
2016-01-15 14:55 ` [RFC 24/29] dma-buf/fence: add debug to fence timeline Gustavo Padovan
2016-01-15 14:55 ` [RFC 25/29] dma-buf/fence: remove unused var from fence_timeline_signal() Gustavo Padovan
2016-01-15 14:55 ` [RFC 26/29] dma-buf/fence: remove pointless fence_timeline_signal at destroy phase Gustavo Padovan
2016-01-15 17:48 ` John Harrison
2016-01-15 18:02 ` Gustavo Padovan
2016-01-15 23:42 ` Greg Hackmann
2016-02-09 22:55 ` Tom Cherry
2016-02-25 15:26 ` Gustavo Padovan
2016-01-15 14:55 ` [RFC 27/29] dma-buf/fence: add .cleanup() callback Gustavo Padovan
2016-01-15 14:55 ` [RFC 28/29] staging/android: use .cleanup() to interrupt any sync_fence waiter Gustavo Padovan
2016-01-15 14:55 ` [RFC 29/29] dma-buf/fence: de-stage sync framework Gustavo Padovan
2016-01-15 19:11 ` [RFC 00/29] De-stage android's " Joe Perches
2016-01-19 11:00 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-01-19 15:23 ` Gustavo Padovan
2016-01-19 16:12 ` John Harrison [this message]
2016-01-19 17:52 ` Gustavo Padovan
2016-01-19 18:04 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-01-19 18:15 ` Gustavo Padovan
2016-03-23 15:07 ` Tomeu Vizoso
2016-01-19 20:10 ` Gustavo Padovan
2016-01-19 20:32 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-01-20 10:28 ` Maarten Lankhorst
2016-01-20 14:32 ` Gustavo Padovan
2016-01-20 15:02 ` Maarten Lankhorst
2016-01-20 16:29 ` Daniel Vetter
2016-01-20 18:28 ` Gustavo Padovan
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