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([2a01:e0a:c:37e0:8998:e0cf:68cc:1b62]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 5b1f17b1804b1-48066aaf30esm19583515e9.0.2026.01.26.14.59.43 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 26 Jan 2026 14:59:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5707632d-3fd8-4a5e-9273-dd7d48d5b438@redhat.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2026 23:59:41 +0100 Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: [PATCH] vt: Add enable module parameter To: Nicolas Pitre , Greg Kroah-Hartman Cc: Jiri Slaby , Calixte Pernot , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-serial@vger.kernel.org References: <20260126092234.713465-1-jfalempe@redhat.com> <2026012613-cotton-jellied-b67a@gregkh> <48be84fb-bee4-4a22-bde4-0d0c78282f80@redhat.com> <2026012648-vantage-mummified-2a43@gregkh> <45526d98-57b6-456e-babc-61b7331318c0@redhat.com> <2026012642-threefold-atypical-a3ad@gregkh> <99371939-e9b2-4114-8e27-e605ebf941de@redhat.com> <2026012653-designer-capably-d575@gregkh> <286bfe2e-796e-4c71-a75c-4967450edaab@redhat.com> <2026012620-retool-gloater-6cd3@gregkh> <28snspp2-3912-rs5o-04s0-1648504sq90r@syhkavp.arg> Content-Language: en-US, fr From: Jocelyn Falempe In-Reply-To: <28snspp2-3912-rs5o-04s0-1648504sq90r@syhkavp.arg> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 26/01/2026 18:24, Nicolas Pitre wrote: > On Mon, 26 Jan 2026, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > >> On Mon, Jan 26, 2026 at 02:05:36PM +0100, Jocelyn Falempe wrote: >>> I think that one of the reason, is that if you switch off VT, of course some >>> users will complain, as it has a lot of implications. >> >> Again, that's a distro's policy decision to make, don't force the kernel >> to support a wishy-washy distro's decision :) > > As a daily VT user for my primary Linux interface due to accessibility > needs, I'm baffled by the idea of distributions removing this support. > > Of course this has lots of implications. For many users with > disabilities, VT is not optional - it's the only _fully_ usable > interface. > > Consider this my official objection. Just don't do that. That patch is clearly for people like you, that will need more time to adapt their tools and workflow to a VT-less system. It's also less practical to develop alternative, if you need to rebuild your kernel to disable VT. Regarding accessibility, I don't see any technical reason why a VT-less system would be less efficient that what is currently available with VT. -- Jocelyn > > > Nicolas >