From: Laura Abbott <labbott@redhat.com>
To: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Stephen Boyd <stephen.boyd@linaro.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Laura Abbott <lauraa@codeaurora.org>,
linux-arm@lists.infradead.org,
Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>,
Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
Ming Lei <ming.lei@canonical.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC/PATCHv2 v2 2/4] dma-mapping: Add dma_remap() APIs
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 11:16:32 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <57210200.2060405@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160427152524.GD20646@e104818-lin.cambridge.arm.com>
On 04/27/2016 08:25 AM, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 05:35:16PM -0700, Stephen Boyd wrote:
>> Quoting Catalin Marinas (2016-04-21 03:35:12)
>>> On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 06:04:27PM -0700, Stephen Boyd wrote:
>>>> From: Laura Abbott <lauraa@codeaurora.org>
>>>>
>>>> Some systems are memory constrained but they need to load very
>>>> large firmwares. The firmware subsystem allows drivers to request
>>>> this firmware be loaded from the filesystem, but this requires
>>>> that the entire firmware be loaded into kernel memory first
>>>> before it's provided to the driver. This can lead to a situation
>>>> where we map the firmware twice, once to load the firmware into
>>>> kernel memory and once to copy the firmware into the final
>>>> resting place.
>>>>
>>>> This design creates needless memory pressure and delays loading
>>>> because we have to copy from kernel memory to somewhere else.
>>>> Let's add a couple DMA APIs that allow us to map DMA buffers into
>>>> the CPU's address space in arbitrary sizes. With this API, we can
>>>> allocate a DMA buffer with DMA_ATTR_NO_KERNEL_MAPPING and move a
>>>> small mapping window across our large DMA buffer to load the
>>>> firmware directly into buffer.
>>>
>>> The first two patches in this series don't make sense to me. I don't
>>> understand what the memory pressure is: physical or virtual? Because
>>> they don't seem to address the former (the DMA buffer is allocated in
>>> full) while the latter doesn't need any addressing at all on arm64, we
>>> have plenty of VA space.
>>>
>>> Why do you even need the coherent DMA API? Can you use the streaming API
>>> (map_sg etc.) with a separately allocated buffer?
>>
>> Hmm I guess I need to add in the patches that show how this is used on
>> top of "no-map" DT reserved memory regions. There are some more patches
>> that allow us to assigned reserved memory regions with the "no-map"
>> attribute to devices and then allocate from those regions using the
>> coherent DMA APIs. In the downstream kernel it's called a removed dma
>> pool[1].
>>
>> So the plan is to wire that all up so that the device can have a
>> reserved chunk of memory for the firmware that doesn't exist in the
>> kernel's linear memory mappings. Once we have allocated the region, we
>> can map it into the kernel's view of memory for a short time so that we
>> can load the firmware into it (dma_remap part). Once that's over, we
>> want to destroy the mapping so that we 1) don't use any of the kernel's
>> virtual memory space (dma_unremap part) to back the buffer and 2) so
>> that the secure world can protect the memory from the non-secure world.
>
> Does the firmware already know about such memory? If yes, I presume the
> kernel would have to be told about it and won't try to map it in the
> linear mapping.
>
> At this point, wouldn't a combination of:
>
> dma_declare_coherent_memory()
> dma_alloc_from_coherent()
> dma_release_from_coherent()
> dma_release_declared_memory()
>
> work? The removed_alloc() implementation in the link you posted doesn't
> seem far from dma_alloc_from_coherent(). The releasing of the declared
> memory above would unmap the memory, so there are no VA mappings left.
>
The removed alloc was specifically written as a fork of the coherent
pool. This was a choice for ease of out of tree maintenance. The better
choice here would be to fold those features back into dma-coherent.c
if needed.
Thanks,
Laura
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-04-27 18:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-04-20 1:04 [RFC/PATCHv2 v2 0/4] request_firmware() on memory constrained devices Stephen Boyd
2016-04-20 1:04 ` [RFC/PATCHv2 v2 1/4] ARM64: dma: Add support for NO_KERNEL_MAPPING attribute Stephen Boyd
2016-04-20 1:04 ` [RFC/PATCHv2 v2 2/4] dma-mapping: Add dma_remap() APIs Stephen Boyd
2016-04-21 10:35 ` Catalin Marinas
[not found] ` <20160423003516.12876.30413@sboyd-linaro>
2016-04-27 15:25 ` Catalin Marinas
2016-04-27 18:16 ` Laura Abbott [this message]
2016-04-20 1:04 ` [RFC/PATCHv2 v2 3/4] firmware_class: Provide infrastructure to make fw caching optional Stephen Boyd
2016-04-20 1:04 ` [RFC/PATCHv2 v2 4/4] firmware: Support requesting firmware directly into DMA memory Stephen Boyd
2016-04-20 12:32 ` [RFC/PATCHv2 v2 0/4] request_firmware() on memory constrained devices Mimi Zohar
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=57210200.2060405@redhat.com \
--to=labbott@redhat.com \
--cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
--cc=arnd@arndb.de \
--cc=broonie@kernel.org \
--cc=catalin.marinas@arm.com \
--cc=lauraa@codeaurora.org \
--cc=linux-arm@lists.infradead.org \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=m.szyprowski@samsung.com \
--cc=ming.lei@canonical.com \
--cc=robin.murphy@arm.com \
--cc=stephen.boyd@linaro.org \
--cc=will.deacon@arm.com \
--cc=zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox
Powered by JetHome