From: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
To: Jemmy Wong <jemmywong512@gmail.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Cc: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] sched/fair: Add smt_balance and llc_balance to the decision matrix
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2026 14:34:54 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <57c0b8017ec57818815dd833963b594304d61447.camel@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260928042018.10618-2-jemmywong512@gmail.com>
On Mon, 2026-09-28 at 12:20 +0800, Jemmy Wong wrote:
> The group-type matrix was introduced in commit 0b0695f2b34a
> ("sched/fair: Rework load_balance()"). When commit fee1759e4f04
> ("sched/fair: Determine active load balance for SMT sched groups")
> added group_smt_balance and commit f38cc2f0d8a3 ("sched/cache:
> Prioritize tasks preferring destination LLC during balancing")
> added group_llc_balance, neither commit updated the matrix table.
>
> Both types are only tagged on non-local groups in update_sg_lb_stats(),
> so their local columns are N/A.
>
> As busiest, group_smt_balance is only set when dst_cpu is idle and the
> SMT group runs more than one task. Against a local has_spare or
> fully_busy group it goes through the nr_idle checks, where a non-SMT
> dst group may also force the pull via smt_vs_nonsmt_groups(). Against a
> local imbalanced or overloaded group the local group is busier and the
> pair is balanced.
>
> As busiest, group_llc_balance is not an unconditional force. A local
> overloaded group is busier and the pair is balanced; otherwise the
> nr_idle checks apply, with prefer_sibling still able to force the pull
> when the local group has spare capacity.
>
> No functional change.
>
> Signed-off-by: Jemmy Wong <jemmywong512@gmail.com>
> ---
> kernel/sched/fair.c | 16 +++++++++-------
> 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> index 7455a83a6a99..f9ddcecfd19d 100644
> --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> @@ -12947,13 +12947,15 @@ static inline void calculate_imbalance(struct lb_env *env, struct sd_lb_stats *s
> /*
> * Decision matrix according to the local and busiest group type:
> *
> - * busiest \ local has_spare fully_busy misfit asym imbalanced overloaded
> - * has_spare nr_idle balanced N/A N/A balanced balanced
> - * fully_busy nr_idle nr_idle N/A N/A balanced balanced
> - * misfit_task force N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
> - * asym_packing force force N/A N/A force force
> - * imbalanced force force N/A N/A force force
> - * overloaded force force N/A N/A force avg_load
> + * busiest \ local has_spare fully_busy misfit smt asym imbalanced llc overloaded
> + * has_spare nr_idle balanced N/A N/A N/A balanced N/A balanced
> + * fully_busy nr_idle nr_idle N/A N/A N/A balanced N/A balanced
> + * misfit_task force N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
> + * smt_balance nr_idle nr_idle N/A N/A N/A balanced N/A balanced
> + * asym_packing force force N/A N/A N/A force N/A force
> + * imbalanced force force N/A N/A N/A force N/A force
Thanks for picking this up - nice to have the table match the code
again. I walked the new rows and columns against
sched_balance_find_src_group(), and they line up, with one exception:
> + * llc_balance nr_idle nr_idle N/A N/A N/A nr_idle N/A balanced
I think local=has_spare, busiest=llc_balance is "force", not "nr_idle":
if (sds.prefer_sibling && local->group_type == group_has_spare &&
(busiest->group_type == group_llc_balance ||
sibling_imbalance(env, &sds, busiest, local) > 1))
goto force_balance;
The group_llc_balance clause short-circuits the sibling_imbalance()
test, so this pair forces unconditionally once prefer_sibling is set,
and prefer_sibling is set for LLC-vs-LLC balancing: the groups span
per-LLC (SD_SHARE_LLC) domains, which keep SD_PREFER_SIBLING (only
SD_NUMA strips it). That also matches your changelog ("prefer_sibling
still able to force the pull...") - the table just reads nr_idle where
the prose says force.
Could you flip that one cell?
* llc_balance force nr_idle N/A N/A N/A nr_idle N/A balanced
Thanks.
Tim
> + * overloaded force force N/A N/A N/A force N/A avg_load
> *
> * N/A : Not Applicable because already filtered while updating
> * statistics.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-01 21:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-28 4:20 [PATCH 0/3] sched/fair: Update decision matrix and rename pinned-task group state Jemmy Wong
2026-09-28 4:20 ` [PATCH 1/3] sched/fair: Add smt_balance and llc_balance to the decision matrix Jemmy Wong
2026-10-01 21:34 ` Tim Chen [this message]
2026-10-02 11:02 ` Jemmy Wong
2026-09-28 4:20 ` [PATCH 2/3] sched/fair: Rename group_imbalanced to group_pinned_task Jemmy Wong
2026-10-01 21:54 ` Tim Chen
2026-10-02 11:03 ` Jemmy Wong
2026-09-28 4:20 ` [PATCH 3/3] sched/fair: Rename sgc->imbalance to sgc->pinned_task Jemmy Wong
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