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([2001:af0:8000:1409:193:86:92:181]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ffacd0b85a97d-48724596604sm23426141f8f.30.2026.09.21.06.50.06 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 21 Sep 2026 06:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <58605613-8a43-40e7-a00a-b0d09f089ec8@suse.com> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2026 15:50:06 +0200 Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 13/21] modpost: emit module descriptors as assembly To: "Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)" Cc: Linus Torvalds , Nathan Chancellor , Nicolas Schier , Nick Desaulniers , Bill Wendling , Justin Stitt , Masahiro Yamada , Alexey Gladkov , Thomas Gleixner , Ingo Molnar , Borislav Petkov , Dave Hansen , x86@kernel.org, "H. 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Silva" , linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, llvm@lists.linux.dev, linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-efi@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Jens Axboe , linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org References: <20260914-build-speedup-v2-0-39817ec5db23@kernel.org> <20260914-build-speedup-v2-13-39817ec5db23@kernel.org> <95baacfb-d8d9-4d2f-bc89-592df6f6f8e3@suse.com> <2b27bb4b-47e3-45ed-a26a-4b9de2b20542@suse.com> Content-Language: en-US From: Petr Pavlu In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 9/21/26 2:48 PM, Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) wrote: > On Mon, Sep 21, 2026 at 02:36:30PM +0200, Petr Pavlu wrote: >> On 9/21/26 1:57 PM, Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) wrote: >>> (note there's a v3 see [0]) >>> >>> [0]: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-kbuild/20260917-build-speedup-v3-0-9ecf4163ff36@kernel.org/ >> >> Thanks, I missed it. >> >>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2026 at 01:25:09PM +0200, Petr Pavlu wrote: >>>> On 9/14/26 11:22 AM, Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) wrote: >>>>> The sections were confirmed to be byte-for-byte identical to the C version >>>>> produced - each of .modinfo, .gnu.linkonce.this_module, __ksymtab*, >>>>> __ksymtab_strings, __kcrctab*, __kflagstab*, __versions, >>>>> __version_ext_crcs, __version_ext_names and their relocations - for all >>>>> 8,135 modules of a clang allmodconfig build with CONFIG_COMPILE_TEST off >>>>> and CONFIG_MODVERSIONS, CONFIG_EXTENDED_MODVERSIONS and >>>>> CONFIG_MODULE_SRCVERSION_ALL on, and for a sample built with gcc. >>>> >>>> Lowering the data to assembly loses debug information for __this_module, >>>> specifically that it has type `struct module`. It might be worth >>> >>> No, it keeps it - every module includes linux/module.h, and the extern >>> declaration of __this_module carries the type, so all of the stuff gdb >>> needs (e.g. ptype, p & field access), DWARF etc. is all there in the same >>> way as with .mod.c. >>> >>> Have confirmed locally. >> >> An extern declaration alone shouldn't cause its name and type to be >> included in debug information. They should appear only when the variable >> is referenced by some code. > > Ack yeah sorry my mistake, I had the LLM check that and should have known > better than to trust it without reviewing what it said (as I have done for > the most part for everything in this series). > >> >> Testing with a simple module that previously referenced __this_module >> only in .mod.c and in no other file, such as lib/test_module.c, shows >> that the .ko no longer contains debug information for this variable. >> >> I've verified this behavior with GCC 16 and Clang 19. > > Ack confirmed locally. > > Can put a fix in module-common.c. > > The LLM came up with a reference as an alternative: > > static struct module *const __this_module_dbg __used __section(".discard.this_module") = &__this_module; > > Would that work? Or should we go with your original suggestion? - > > __weak __section(".discard.this_module") struct module __this_module; With GCC, the LLM's suggestion produces debug information for both __this_module_dbg and __this_module. However, Clang only generates debug information for __this_module_dbg, so it is not quite what is needed. -- Thanks, Petr