From: Xiaoyao Li <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Kiryl Shutsemau <kas@kernel.org>,
Rick Edgecombe <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org, linux-coco@lists.linux.dev,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
James Houghton <jthoughton@google.com>,
Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>,
Binbin Wu <binbin.wu@linux.intel.com>,
Ackerley Tng <ackerleytng@google.com>,
Vishal Annapurve <vannapurve@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] KVM: TDX: Synthesize SHUTDOWN instead of returning -EIO on unhandled EPT violation
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2026 22:40:50 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5949c545-2104-4824-b007-5345fe0e5d7f@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <arUv_KydBD2kWkIo@google.com>
On 9/24/2026 10:13 PM, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2026, Xiaoyao Li wrote:
>> On 9/24/2026 12:33 AM, Sean Christopherson wrote:
>>> Synthesize a triple fault, i.e. exit to userspace with KVM_EXIT_SHUTDOWN,
>>> instead of returning -EIO from KVM_RUN if KVM encounters an EPT Violation
>>> due to a guest access to a pending page. Returning -EIO implies KVM is
>>> buggy, and most VMMs will respond by completely terminating the VM, versus
>>> rebooting the VM in response to KVM_EXIT_SHUTDOWN. I.e. give the VMM the
>>> option of trying to keep the VM (from the end user's perspective) alive.
>>
>> But reboot isn't good, neither.
>>
>> I still think a new specific exit reason[1] would be better, as I suggested before.
>>
>> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/1b0ea352-c645-461b-9e19-5202791f8e2d@intel.com
>
> Doh, I completely forgot about that patch. *sigh*
>
> I actually thought KVM_EXIT_MEMORY_FAULT this time around, but I was worried that
> it would confuse a VMM. And practically speaking, the VMM can't do anything other
> than print some diagnostic details and try to reboot the VM, because the guest has
> very deliberately opted out of #VEs.
>
> An alternative to KVM_EXIT_SHUTDOWN would be
>
> vcpu->run->exit_reason = KVM_EXIT_SYSTEM_EVENT;
> vcpu->run->system_event.type = KVM_SYSTEM_EVENT_TDX_FATAL;
> vcpu->run->system_event.ndata = 1;
> vcpu->run->system_event.data[0] = gpa;
>
> So that the VMM could log the guilty GPA. Though I'm not sure I like overloading
> an explicit guest event.
>
> As for KVM_EXIT_GUEST_ERROR, I don't see the point. As above, the VMM can't do
> anything other than reboot the VM. I doubt Linux-as-a-guest will ever support an
> interface that allows recovering from this situation, because again, the entire
> point is treat unaccepted accesses as fatal conditions.
>
> All in all, I think my vote is still for SHUTDOWN.
My concern is that userspace cannot differentiate between triple fault and
accessing a pending page if we return KVM_EXIT_SHUTDOWN. It's not friendly for
debugging.
prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-24 14:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-23 16:33 Sean Christopherson
2026-09-23 23:29 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-23 23:51 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-24 0:31 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-24 1:39 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-24 14:13 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-24 14:40 ` Xiaoyao Li [this message]
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