From: Santhosh Kumar K <s-k6@ti.com>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Cc: <miquel.raynal@bootlin.com>, <richard@nod.at>, <vigneshr@ti.com>,
<tudor.ambarus@linaro.org>, <pratyush@kernel.org>,
<mwalle@kernel.org>, <p-mantena@ti.com>,
<linux-spi@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <a-dutta@ti.com>,
<u-kumar1@ti.com>, <praneeth@ti.com>, <s-k6@ti.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 01/10] spi: spi-mem: Introduce support for tuning controller
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2025 11:35:32 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <59c49efa-20b9-4d81-b66e-e9a363322274@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2f051eae-61c7-4bff-9f85-cf37b02a7ea3@sirena.org.uk>
On 14/08/25 18:04, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 14, 2025 at 05:04:33PM +0530, Santhosh Kumar K wrote:
>> On 14/08/25 01:56, Mark Brown wrote:
>
>>> Should we have something that blocks these tuning required modes without
>>> the appropriate tuning, and/or allows discovery of which modes require
>>> this tuning? This all feels very landmineish - client drivers just have
>>> to know when tuning is required.
>
>> The flash's maximum operating frequency determines whether PHY tuning is
>> required, as we need tuning in case of Cadence controller for frequencies
>> over 50 MHz.
>
> That's entirely specific to the Candence controller from the sounds of
> it, that makes it hard to write a client driver if you need to know
> exactly what the controller you're dealing with is and what it's
> requirements are.
PHY tuning is not very specific to the Cadence controller; this has been
added for other controllers as well. [1] - [3]
spi_mem simply verifies the execute_tuning hook within the controller's
mem_ops and invokes it if it exists, and the tuning implementation is
entirely controller-dependent - ranging from straightforward parameter
configuration of PHY registers to advanced tuning algorithms such as the
one implemented in this tuning series.
Currently, spi_mem_execute_tuning() is called by default from flash. In
the future, this could be improved by asking the controller if tuning is
actually needed (considering different factors such as frequency),
similar to *_get_tuning_params implementation. Let me know your opinion
in this.
The get_tuning_params and execute_tuning hooks in spi_mem can also be
utilized by any non-MTD spi-mem users.
>
>> And we do check for this condition - see Patch 07/10,
>> cqspi_phy_op_eligible_sdr(), which currently verifies the flash frequency
>> against 166 MHz. This logic can be improved by implementing both min and max
>> frequency checks, will update in the following version.
>
> I can't actually tell how that verifies if the tuning has been done
> appropriately TBH, at least not without more effort than I'd care to
The *_execute_tuning function takes the read_op as an argument from
flash, and considering flash continues to utilize the same read_op and
frequency, it should make sure the tuning is appropriately completed. In
the Cadence controller, the tuning process is validated by performing a
read-back of a pre-defined tuning pattern using the read_op provided by
flash.
> (and the tuning only gets added in patch 10?).
Patches 7 and 8 add PHY read/write support, and patch 9 adds tuning.
These three patches could be squashed into one, but kept them separate
to make it more granular for the reviewers.
[1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-spi/20220509175616.1089346-1-clg@kaod.org/
[2] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20230322090451.3179431-2-haibo.chen@nxp.com/
[3]
https://lore.kernel.org/all/20241128174316.3209354-1-csokas.bence@prolan.hu/
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-08-22 6:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-11 19:32 [RFC PATCH 00/10] SPINAND PHY Tuning Series Santhosh Kumar K
2025-08-11 19:32 ` [RFC PATCH 01/10] spi: spi-mem: Introduce support for tuning controller Santhosh Kumar K
2025-08-13 20:26 ` Mark Brown
2025-08-14 11:34 ` Santhosh Kumar K
2025-08-14 12:34 ` Mark Brown
2025-08-22 6:05 ` Santhosh Kumar K [this message]
2025-09-10 8:07 ` Miquel Raynal
2025-08-24 17:02 ` Miquel Raynal
2025-09-10 8:21 ` Miquel Raynal
2025-09-20 17:55 ` Santhosh Kumar K
2025-10-28 15:41 ` Miquel Raynal
2025-11-05 8:55 ` Santhosh Kumar K
2025-11-05 9:35 ` Miquel Raynal
2025-11-18 13:42 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-12-03 8:02 ` Santhosh Kumar K
2025-12-03 8:58 ` Miquel Raynal
2025-12-10 11:33 ` Santhosh Kumar K
2025-12-12 6:43 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-11-18 13:49 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-12-03 8:02 ` Santhosh Kumar K
2025-12-03 9:28 ` Michael Walle
2025-12-03 9:50 ` Miquel Raynal
2025-12-03 14:12 ` Michael Walle
2025-12-10 11:36 ` Santhosh Kumar K
2025-12-10 11:34 ` Santhosh Kumar K
2025-12-11 14:16 ` Miquel Raynal
2025-12-04 16:54 ` Mahapatra, Amit Kumar
2025-12-10 11:34 ` Santhosh Kumar K
2025-08-11 19:32 ` [RFC PATCH 02/10] spi: spi-mem: Define spi_mem_tuning_params and spi_mem_get_tuning_params() Santhosh Kumar K
2025-08-11 19:32 ` [RFC PATCH 03/10] mtd: nand: spi: Introduce _execute_tuning for mtd devices Santhosh Kumar K
2025-08-11 19:32 ` [RFC PATCH 04/10] mtd: mtdcore: Call mtd_execute_tuning during mtd_register Santhosh Kumar K
2025-08-11 19:32 ` [RFC PATCH 05/10] spi: cadence-quadspi: Move cqspi_readdata_capture() above all operations Santhosh Kumar K
2025-08-11 19:32 ` [RFC PATCH 06/10] spi: cadence-quadspi: Use BIT() macro for CQSPI_REG_READCAPTURE_BYPASS Santhosh Kumar K
2025-08-11 19:32 ` [RFC PATCH 07/10] spi: cadence-quadspi: Enable PHY for aligned DAC reads Santhosh Kumar K
2025-08-11 19:32 ` [RFC PATCH 08/10] spi: cadence-quadspi: Enable PHY for data writes Santhosh Kumar K
2025-08-11 19:32 ` [RFC PATCH 09/10] spi: cadence-quadspi: Implement PHY for higher frequencies in SDR mode Santhosh Kumar K
2025-08-11 19:32 ` [RFC PATCH 10/10] spi: cadence-quadspi: Define cqspi_get_tuning_params() Santhosh Kumar K
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