From: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, ljs@kernel.org
Cc: riel@surriel.com, liam@infradead.org, vbabka@kernel.org,
rppt@kernel.org, surenb@google.com, mhocko@suse.com,
harry@kernel.org, jannh@google.com, lance.yang@linux.dev,
qi.zheng@linux.dev, pfalcato@suse.de, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: use memory barriers for non PMD-sized folios to sync
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2026 16:43:01 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <59c59696-2112-44e6-818c-50bd10789b70@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3e5ceb38-d04c-4cd4-a783-5d0edcedf5dd@kernel.org>
On 11/11/26 3:48 PM, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> On 11/11/26 07:06, Baolin Wang wrote:
>> Commit 243cf1f67b36 ("mm: memory: fix truncation removing mapped folios")
>> uses PMD lock via sync_with_folio_pmd_zap() to synchronize when a cleared
>> PMD is found while unmapping a folio.
>>
>> However, for non PMD-sized folios, the cleared PMD can only come from
>> PTE table reclaim, which clears the PMD only after the rmaps for the
>> table have been removed. This is plain message passing, and taking
>> the PMD lock is more than needed, like I did in the previous patch[1].
>>
>> Without barriers, the walker can observe the cleared PMD but a stale
>> mapcount on weakly ordered architectures:
>>
>> CPU 0 (unmap folio) CPU 1 (MADV_DONTNEED, full PMD)
>> ================================ ================================
>> folio_lock()
>> lock(ptl)
>> clear PTEs
>> remove rmaps /* W mapcount */
>> [mapcount load satisfied early,
>> folio still mapped]
>> pmd_clear() /* W pmd */
>> unlock(ptl)
>> pmdp_get_lockless() -> none /* R pmd */
>> skip the PMD
>> folio_mapped() -> true /* R mapcount, stale */
>> unmapping assumed to have failed
>>
>> Pairing an smp_wmb() before the PMD clear with an smp_rmb() after the
>> PMD read forbids this outcome:
>>
>> CPU 0 (unmap folio) CPU 1 (MADV_DONTNEED, full PMD)
>> ================================ ================================
>> remove rmaps /* W mapcount */
>> smp_wmb()
>> pmd_clear() /* W pmd */
>> pmdp_get_lockless() -> none /* R pmd */
>> smp_rmb()
>> folio_mapped() /* R mapcount */
>>
>> If R pmd observes W pmd, R mapcount must observe W mapcount, so
>> folio_mapped() no longer reports the removed mappings.
>>
>> No changes for PMD-sized folios unmapping.
>>
>> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/542c97482eae84f86704bcee56482633d1b32321.1791616645.git.baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com/
>> Signed-off-by: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>
>> ---
>> mm/internal.h | 26 ++++++++++++++++++++++----
>> mm/memory.c | 12 ++++++++++--
>> mm/page_vma_mapped.c | 2 +-
>> 3 files changed, 33 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/mm/internal.h b/mm/internal.h
>> index cd3675c044e0..a277bf4841f8 100644
>> --- a/mm/internal.h
>> +++ b/mm/internal.h
>> @@ -592,6 +592,7 @@ void pmd_install(struct mm_struct *mm, pmd_t *pmd, pgtable_t *pte);
>> * sync_with_folio_pmd_zap - sync with concurrent zapping of folios
>> * @mm: The mm_struct.
>> * @pmdp: Pointer to the pmd that was found to be pmd_none().
>> + * @nr_pages: The number of pages in the folio.
>> *
>> * When we find a pmd_none() while unmapping a folio without holding the PTL,
>> * zap_huge_pmd() may have cleared the PMD but not yet updated the folio
>> @@ -600,13 +601,30 @@ void pmd_install(struct mm_struct *mm, pmd_t *pmd, pgtable_t *pte);
>> * against later mapcount reads. Skipping the PMD without synchronization
>> * could make folio unmapping code assume that unmapping failed.
>> *
>> - * Wait for concurrent zapping to complete by grabbing the PTL.
>> + * Wait for concurrent zapping to complete by grabbing the PTL for PMD-sized
>> + * folios, otherwise smp_rmb() is sufficient.
>> */
>> -static inline void sync_with_folio_pmd_zap(struct mm_struct *mm, pmd_t *pmdp)
>> +static inline void sync_with_folio_pmd_zap(struct mm_struct *mm, pmd_t *pmdp,
>> + unsigned int nr_pages)
>> {
>> - spinlock_t *ptl = pmd_lock(mm, pmdp);
>> + if (nr_pages >= HPAGE_PMD_NR) {
>> + spinlock_t *ptl = pmd_lock(mm, pmdp);
>>
>> - spin_unlock(ptl);
>> + spin_unlock(ptl);
>> + return;
>> + }
>> +
>> + /*
>> + * For non PMD-sized folios zapping, concurrent zap_empty_pte_table()
>> + * may clear the PMD after the rmaps for the table have been removed,
>> + * but later mapcount reads could still be observed before the PMD
>> + * read, making the folio appear to be still mapped after unmapping.
>> + * Order the PMD read before later mapcount reads, so that observing
>> + * the cleared PMD implies observing the rmap removals.
>> + *
>> + * Pairs with smp_wmb() in zap_pte_range().
>> + */
>> + smp_rmb();
>> }
>>
>> struct zap_details;
>> diff --git a/mm/memory.c b/mm/memory.c
>> index fe72e66c9c2e..1ee286cdd3af 100644
>> --- a/mm/memory.c
>> +++ b/mm/memory.c
>> @@ -2054,8 +2054,15 @@ static unsigned long zap_pte_range(struct mmu_gather *tlb,
>> * Clear the PMD after the rmaps for the table have been removed, in case
>> * an incorrect mapcount is observed after unmapping the folio.
>> */
>> - if (can_reclaim_pt && direct_reclaim && addr == end)
>> + if (can_reclaim_pt && direct_reclaim && addr == end) {
>> + /*
>> + * rmap changes need to be observed before page tables get zapped.
>> + *
>> + * Pairs with smp_rmb() in sync_with_folio_pmd_zap().
>> + */
>> + smp_wmb();
>> direct_reclaim = zap_empty_pte_table(mm, pmd, ptl, &pmdval);
>> + }
>> pte_unmap_unlock(start_pte, ptl);
>>
>> /*
>> @@ -2110,7 +2117,8 @@ static inline unsigned long zap_pmd_range(struct mmu_gather *tlb,
>> /* fall through */
>> } else if (pmd_none(*pmd)) {
>> if (details && details->single_folio)
>> - sync_with_folio_pmd_zap(tlb->mm, pmd);
>> + sync_with_folio_pmd_zap(tlb->mm, pmd,
>> + folio_nr_pages(details->single_folio));
>> addr = next;
>> continue;
>> }
>> diff --git a/mm/page_vma_mapped.c b/mm/page_vma_mapped.c
>> index a931243ca42b..d793ad0c5364 100644
>> --- a/mm/page_vma_mapped.c
>> +++ b/mm/page_vma_mapped.c
>> @@ -295,7 +295,7 @@ bool page_vma_mapped_walk(struct page_vma_mapped_walk *pvmw)
>> pvmw->ptl = NULL;
>> } else if (!pmd_present(pmde)) {
>> if (pvmw->flags & PVMW_SYNC)
>> - sync_with_folio_pmd_zap(mm, pvmw->pmd);
>> + sync_with_folio_pmd_zap(mm, pvmw->pmd, pvmw->nr_pages);
>>
>
> If there is no folio, why do we care about the sync? Should there be a folio
> here? Anyhow, I think sync_with_folio_pmd_zap() really should be consuming a folio.
Since there are only two cases without a folio:
mapping_wrprotect_range() and pfn_mkclean_range(), I'm hesitant to
modify all page_vma_mapped_walk() callers to pass in a 'folio' parameter
for these 2 cases.
Or should we add a new flag for the pfn walk?
/ Walk a PFN range which need not belong to a folio /
#define PVMW_PFN (1 << 2)
Then the changes would be:
} else if (!pmd_present(pmde)) {
if ((pvmw->flags & (PVMW_SYNC | PVMW_PFN)) == PVMW_SYNC)
sync_with_folio_pmd_zap(mm, pvmw->pmd,
pfn_folio(pvmw->pfn));
goto next_pmd;
}
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-11-11 8:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-11-11 6:06 Baolin Wang
2026-11-11 7:48 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-11-11 8:43 ` Baolin Wang [this message]
2026-11-11 9:22 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
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