From: Lucas Stach <l.stach@pengutronix.de>
To: Oleksij Rempel <o.rempel@pengutronix.de>,
Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
kernel@pengutronix.de, Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 1/1] phy: micrel: add Signal Quality Indicator (SQI) support for KSZ9477 switch PHYs
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2025 20:06:32 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5a094e3b95f1219435056d87ca4f643398bcb1d3.camel@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250625124127.4176960-1-o.rempel@pengutronix.de>
Hi Oleksij,
Am Mittwoch, dem 25.06.2025 um 14:41 +0200 schrieb Oleksij Rempel:
> Add support for the Signal Quality Index (SQI) feature on KSZ9477 family
> switches. This feature provides a relative measure of receive signal
> quality.
>
> The KSZ9477 PHY provides four separate SQI values for a 1000BASE-T link,
> one for each differential pair (Channel A-D). Since the current get_sqi
> UAPI only supports returning a single value per port, this
> implementation reads the SQI from Channel A as a representative metric.
I wonder if it wouldn't be more useful to report the worst SQI from all
the channels instead.
> This can be extended to provide per-channel readings once the UAPI is
> enhanced for multi-channel support.
>
> The hardware provides a raw 7-bit SQI value (0-127), where lower is
> better. This raw value is converted to the standard 0-7 scale to provide
> a usable, interoperable metric for userspace tools, abstracting away
> hardware-specifics. The mapping to the standard 0-7 SQI scale was
> determined empirically by injecting a 30MHz sine wave into the receive
> pair with a signal generator. It was observed that the link becomes
> unstable and drops when the raw SQI value reaches 8. This
> implementation is based on these test results.
>
> Signed-off-by: Oleksij Rempel <o.rempel@pengutronix.de>
> ---
> changes v2:
> - Reword commit message
> - Fix SQI value inversion
> - Implement an empirically-derived, non-linear mapping to the standard
> 0-7 SQI scale
> ---
> drivers/net/phy/micrel.c | 124 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> 1 file changed, 124 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/drivers/net/phy/micrel.c b/drivers/net/phy/micrel.c
> index d0429dc8f561..6422d9a7c09f 100644
> --- a/drivers/net/phy/micrel.c
> +++ b/drivers/net/phy/micrel.c
> @@ -2173,6 +2173,128 @@ static void kszphy_get_phy_stats(struct phy_device *phydev,
> stats->rx_errors = priv->phy_stats.rx_err_pkt_cnt;
> }
>
> +/* Base register for Signal Quality Indicator (SQI) - Channel A
> + *
> + * MMD Address: MDIO_MMD_PMAPMD (0x01)
> + * Register: 0xAC (Channel A)
> + * Each channel (pair) has its own register:
> + * Channel A: 0xAC
> + * Channel B: 0xAD
> + * Channel C: 0xAE
> + * Channel D: 0xAF
> + */
> +#define KSZ9477_MMD_SIGNAL_QUALITY_CHAN_A 0xAC
> +
> +/* SQI field mask for bits [14:8]
> + *
> + * SQI indicates relative quality of the signal.
> + * A lower value indicates better signal quality.
> + */
> +#define KSZ9477_MMD_SQI_MASK GENMASK(14, 8)
> +
> +#define KSZ9477_SQI_MAX 7
> +
> +/* Delay between consecutive SQI register reads in microseconds.
> + *
> + * Reference: KSZ9477S Datasheet DS00002392C, Section 4.1.11 (page 26)
> + * The register is updated every 2 µs. Use 3 µs to avoid redundant reads.
> + */
> +#define KSZ9477_MMD_SQI_READ_DELAY_US 3
> +
> +/* Number of SQI samples to average for a stable result.
> + *
> + * Reference: KSZ9477S Datasheet DS00002392C, Section 4.1.11 (page 26)
> + * For noisy environments, a minimum of 30–50 readings is recommended.
> + */
> +#define KSZ9477_SQI_SAMPLE_COUNT 40
> +
> +/* The hardware SQI register provides a raw value from 0-127, where a lower
> + * value indicates better signal quality. However, empirical testing has
> + * shown that only the 0-7 range is relevant for a functional link. A raw
> + * value of 8 or higher was measured directly before link drop. This aligns
> + * with the OPEN Alliance recommendation that SQI=0 should represent the
> + * pre-failure state.
> + *
> + * This table provides a non-linear mapping from the useful raw hardware
> + * values (0-7) to the standard 0-7 SQI scale, where higher is better.
> + */
> +static const u8 ksz_sqi_mapping[] = {
> + 7, /* raw 0 -> SQI 7 */
> + 7, /* raw 1 -> SQI 7 */
> + 6, /* raw 2 -> SQI 6 */
> + 5, /* raw 3 -> SQI 5 */
> + 4, /* raw 4 -> SQI 4 */
> + 3, /* raw 5 -> SQI 3 */
> + 2, /* raw 6 -> SQI 2 */
> + 1, /* raw 7 -> SQI 1 */
> +};
> +
> +/**
> + * kszphy_get_sqi - Read, average, and map Signal Quality Index (SQI)
> + * @phydev: the PHY device
> + *
> + * This function reads and processes the raw Signal Quality Index from the
> + * PHY. Based on empirical testing, a raw value of 8 or higher indicates a
> + * pre-failure state and is mapped to SQI 0. Raw values from 0-7 are
> + * mapped to the standard 0-7 SQI scale via a lookup table.
> + *
> + * Return: SQI value (0–7), or a negative errno on failure.
> + */
> +static int kszphy_get_sqi(struct phy_device *phydev)
> +{
> + int sum = 0;
> + int i, val, raw_sqi, avg_raw_sqi;
> + u8 channels;
> +
> + /* Determine applicable channels based on link speed */
> + if (phydev->speed == SPEED_1000)
> + /* TODO: current SQI API only supports 1 channel. */
> + channels = 1;
> + else if (phydev->speed == SPEED_100)
> + channels = 1;
> + else
> + return -EOPNOTSUPP;
> +
> + /*
> + * Sample and accumulate SQI readings for each pair (currently only one).
> + *
> + * Reference: KSZ9477S Datasheet DS00002392C, Section 4.1.11 (page 26)
> + * - The SQI register is updated every 2 µs.
> + * - Values may fluctuate significantly, even in low-noise environments.
> + * - For reliable estimation, average a minimum of 30–50 samples
> + * (recommended for noisy environments)
> + * - In noisy environments, individual readings are highly unreliable.
> + *
> + * We use 40 samples per pair with a delay of 3 µs between each
> + * read to ensure new values are captured (2 µs update interval).
> + */
> + for (i = 0; i < KSZ9477_SQI_SAMPLE_COUNT; i++) {
> + val = phy_read_mmd(phydev, MDIO_MMD_PMAPMD,
> + KSZ9477_MMD_SIGNAL_QUALITY_CHAN_A);
> + if (val < 0)
> + return val;
> +
> + raw_sqi = FIELD_GET(KSZ9477_MMD_SQI_MASK, val);
> + sum += raw_sqi;
> +
> + udelay(KSZ9477_MMD_SQI_READ_DELAY_US);
This ends up spending a sizable amount of time just spinning the CPU to
collect the samples for the averaging. Given that only very low values
seem to indicate a working link, I wonder how significant the
fluctuations in reported link quality are in reality. Is it really
worth spending 120us of CPU time to average those values?
Maybe a running average updated with a new sample each time this
function is called would be sufficient?
Regards,
Lucas
> + }
> +
> + avg_raw_sqi = sum / KSZ9477_SQI_SAMPLE_COUNT;
> +
> + /* Handle the pre-fail/failed state first. */
> + if (avg_raw_sqi >= ARRAY_SIZE(ksz_sqi_mapping))
> + return 0;
> +
> + /* Use the lookup table for the good signal range. */
> + return ksz_sqi_mapping[avg_raw_sqi];
> +}
> +
> +static int kszphy_get_sqi_max(struct phy_device *phydev)
> +{
> + return KSZ9477_SQI_MAX;
> +}
> +
> static void kszphy_enable_clk(struct phy_device *phydev)
> {
> struct kszphy_priv *priv = phydev->priv;
> @@ -5801,6 +5923,8 @@ static struct phy_driver ksphy_driver[] = {
> .update_stats = kszphy_update_stats,
> .cable_test_start = ksz9x31_cable_test_start,
> .cable_test_get_status = ksz9x31_cable_test_get_status,
> + .get_sqi = kszphy_get_sqi,
> + .get_sqi_max = kszphy_get_sqi_max,
> } };
>
> module_phy_driver(ksphy_driver);
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-25 18:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-25 12:41 Oleksij Rempel
2025-06-25 15:33 ` Maxime Chevallier
2025-06-25 16:36 ` Oleksij Rempel
2025-06-25 18:06 ` Lucas Stach [this message]
2025-06-26 5:11 ` Oleksij Rempel
2025-06-26 12:20 ` Oleksij Rempel
2025-06-26 0:07 ` kernel test robot
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