From: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>
To: Sumit Garg <sumit.garg@linaro.org>, Yael Tiomkin <yaelt@google.com>
Cc: linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, jejb@linux.ibm.com,
jarkko@kernel.org, corbet@lwn.net, dhowells@redhat.com,
jmorris@namei.org, serge@hallyn.com, keyrings@vger.kernel.org,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
"Jan Lübbe" <jlu@pengutronix.de>,
"Ahmad Fatoum" <a.fatoum@pengutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] KEYS: encrypted: Instantiate key with user-provided decrypted data
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2021 08:29:33 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5a38824152eeee0fc9ba0a4fd2308bb6e0970059.camel@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFA6WYPuPHgcnzt6j+Q-EA2Dos6vBDukrjpheo5srLVXFrifEg@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Sumit,
On Thu, 2021-12-30 at 15:37 +0530, Sumit Garg wrote:
> + Jan, Ahmad
>
> On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 at 03:24, Yael Tiomkin <yaelt@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > The encrypted.c class supports instantiation of encrypted keys with
> > either an already-encrypted key material, or by generating new key
> > material based on random numbers. This patch defines a new datablob
> > format: [<format>] <master-key name> <decrypted data length>
> > <decrypted data> that allows to instantiate encrypted keys using
> > user-provided decrypted data, and therefore allows to perform key
> > encryption from userspace. The decrypted key material will be
> > inaccessible from userspace.
>
> This type of user-space key import feature has already been discussed
> at large in the context of trusted keys here [1]. So what makes it
> special in case of encrypted keys such that it isn't a "UNSAFE_IMPORT"
> or "DEBUGGING_IMPORT" or "DEVELOPMENT_IMPORT", ...?
>
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-integrity/74830d4f-5a76-8ba8-aad0-0d79f7c01af9@pengutronix.de/
>
> -Sumit
>
> >
> > Reviewed-by: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Yael Tiomkin <yaelt@google.com>
There is a difference between trusted and encrypted keys. So in
addition to pointing to the rather long discussion thread, please
summarize the conclusion and, assuming you agree, include why in once
case it was acceptable and in the other it wasn't to provide userspace
key data.
thanks,
Mimi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-12-30 13:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-12-29 21:53 Yael Tiomkin
2021-12-30 10:07 ` Sumit Garg
2021-12-30 13:29 ` Mimi Zohar [this message]
2022-01-03 6:51 ` Sumit Garg
2022-01-05 20:18 ` Yael Tiomkin
2022-01-07 5:14 ` Sumit Garg
2022-01-07 12:53 ` Yael Tiomkin
2022-01-07 13:32 ` Sumit Garg
2022-01-13 19:14 ` Yael Tiomkin
2022-01-18 6:46 ` Sumit Garg
2022-01-05 20:12 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-01-06 18:30 ` Yael Tiomkin
2022-01-08 21:58 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-01-10 16:04 ` Nayna
2022-01-13 19:01 ` Yael Tiomkin
2022-01-20 17:13 ` Nayna
2022-01-18 18:26 Martin Ross
2022-01-26 14:47 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-01-26 14:51 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2022-01-26 20:56 ` Yael Tiomkin
2022-02-04 6:27 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
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