From: "Mika Penttilä" <mpenttil@redhat.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
intel-xe@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
Leon Romanovsky <leonro@nvidia.com>,
Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>,
Balbir Singh <balbirs@nvidia.com>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
Matthew Brost <matthew.brost@intel.com>,
Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/12] [PATCH v14 00/12] migrate on fault for device pages
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2026 08:29:34 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5b1d0fa6-d183-446e-bc52-56e0afd3f398@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260922192726.90dec3c4c77b8c9063dbf218@linux-foundation.org>
On 9/23/26 05:27, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Sep 2026 08:34:09 +0300 mpenttil@redhat.com wrote:
>
>> From: Mika Penttilä <mpenttil@redhat.com>
>>
>> Currently, the way device page faulting and migration works
>> is not optimal, if you want to do both fault handling and
>> migration at once.
>>
>> Being able to migrate not present pages (or pages mapped with incorrect
>> permissions, eg. COW) to the GPU requires doing either of the
>> following sequences:
>>
>> 1. hmm_range_fault() - fault in non-present pages with correct permissions, etc.
>> 2. migrate_vma_*() - migrate the pages
>>
>> Or:
>>
>> 1. migrate_vma_*() - migrate present pages
>> 2. If non-present pages detected by migrate_vma_*():
>> a) call hmm_range_fault() to fault pages in
>> b) call migrate_vma_*() again to migrate now present pages
>>
>> The problem with the first sequence is that you always have to do two
>> page walks even when most of the time the pages are present or zero page
>> mappings so the common case takes a performance hit.
>>
>> The second sequence is better for the common case, but far worse if
>> pages aren't present because now you have to walk the page tables three
>> times (once to find the page is not present, once so hmm_range_fault()
>> can find a non-present page to fault in and once again to setup the
>> migration). It is also tricky to code correctly. One page table walk
>> could costs over 1000 cpu cycles on X86-64, which is a significant hit.
>>
>> We should be able to walk the page table once, faulting
>> pages in as required and replacing them with migration entries if
>> requested.
> Sounds sensible.
>
>> Tested in X86-64 VM with HMM test device, passing the selftests.
>> For performance, the migrate throughput tests from the selftests
>> show similar numbers (within error margin) as unmodified kernel.
> But no performance benefits are demonstrated?
There are no performance regressions for current tests.
Real benefits come if want to do migrate on fault.
For migrate on fault today missing pages are collected as not-present and
the caller has to fault them and re-run migrate_vma_setup(); folding
HMM_PFN_REQ_FAULT into the collecting walk removes that extra
fault+retry round-trip, dropping two page table walks. Page table walks
are not cheap. Not to mention simplified implementation for driver.
Also, the vma looked up as part of the walk is readily available for
migration, eliminating the need for explicit vma lookup - one more
performance benefit. Net effect two saved page table walks and
one vma lookup.
This series also addresses the vanished/reborn page table while
collecting problem which can crash current implementation.
--Mika
prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-23 5:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-22 5:34 mpenttil
2026-09-22 5:34 ` [PATCH v14 01/12] mm/Kconfig: changes for " mpenttil
2026-09-22 22:27 ` Balbir Singh
2026-09-23 5:42 ` Mika Penttilä
2026-09-22 5:34 ` [PATCH v14 02/12] mm: add helper to convert HMM pfn to migrate pfn mpenttil
2026-09-22 5:34 ` [PATCH v14 03/12] mm/hmm: preparations for HMM to participate in migration mpenttil
2026-09-22 5:34 ` [PATCH v14 04/12] mm/hmm: do the plumbing " mpenttil
2026-09-22 5:34 ` [PATCH v14 05/12] mm/hmm: implement folio split for migrate needs in HMM pagewalk mpenttil
2026-09-22 5:34 ` [PATCH v14 06/12] mm/hmm: migrate collection in HMM pagewalk - pte level mpenttil
2026-09-22 5:34 ` [PATCH v14 07/12] mm/hmm: migrate collection in HMM pagewalk - pmd level mpenttil
2026-09-22 5:34 ` [PATCH v14 08/12] mm/hmm: add lazy MMU mode support for migration in HMM pagewalk mpenttil
2026-09-22 5:34 ` [PATCH v14 09/12] mm/hmm: implement rollback for device page " mpenttil
2026-09-22 5:34 ` [PATCH v14 10/12] mm: enable device page migration from " mpenttil
2026-09-22 5:34 ` [PATCH v14 11/12] lib/test_hmm: add a new testcase for the migrate on fault mpenttil
2026-09-22 5:34 ` [PATCH v14 12/12] Documentation/mm/hmm: document migration through hmm_range_fault() mpenttil
2026-09-23 2:27 ` [PATCH 00/12] [PATCH v14 00/12] migrate on fault for device pages Andrew Morton
2026-09-23 5:29 ` Mika Penttilä [this message]
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