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From: Joseph Qi <joseph.qi@linux.alibaba.com>
To: George Spelvin <lkml@SDF.ORG>, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Mark Fasheh <mark@fasheh.com>,
	Joel Becker <jlbec@evilplan.org>,
	ocfs2-devel@oss.oracle.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 29/50] fs/ocfs2/journal: Use prandom_u32() and not /dev/random for timeout
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 08:56:56 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5b3a28ea-8d3f-2726-2daa-55c7af4a5d00@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200330163412.GA2459@SDF.ORG>



On 2020/3/31 00:34, George Spelvin wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 08:09:33PM +0800, Joseph Qi wrote:
>> Sorry for the late reply since I might miss this mail.
> 
> You're hardly late; I expect replies to dribble in for a week.
> 
>> On 2019/3/21 11:07, George Spelvin wrote:
>>> diff --git a/fs/ocfs2/journal.c b/fs/ocfs2/journal.c
>>> index 68ba354cf3610..939a12e57fa8b 100644
>>> --- a/fs/ocfs2/journal.c
>>> +++ b/fs/ocfs2/journal.c
>>> @@ -1884,11 +1884,8 @@ int ocfs2_mark_dead_nodes(struct ocfs2_super *osb)
>>>   */
>>>  static inline unsigned long ocfs2_orphan_scan_timeout(void)
>>>  {
>>> -	unsigned long time;
>>> -
>>> -	get_random_bytes(&time, sizeof(time));
>>> -	time = ORPHAN_SCAN_SCHEDULE_TIMEOUT + (time % 5000);
>>> -	return msecs_to_jiffies(time);
>>> +	return msecs_to_jiffies(ORPHAN_SCAN_SCHEDULE_TIMEOUT) +
>>> +		prandom_u32_max(5 * HZ);
>>
>> Seems better include the prandom_u32_max() into msecs_to_jiffies()?
> 
> What I'm trying to take advantage of here is constant propagation.
> 
> msecs_to_jiffies is zero cost (it's evaluated entirely at compile 
> time) if its argument is a compile-time constant.  It's a function call
> and a few instructions if its argument is variable.
> 
> msecs_to_jiffies(ORPHAN_SCAN_SCHEDULE_TIMEOUT + prandom_u32_max(5000))
> would be forced to use the expensive version.
> 
> The compiler does't know, but *I* know, that msecs_to_jiffies() is a 
> linear function, and prandom_u32_max() is a sort-of linear function.
> 
> (It's a linear function for a given PRNG starting state, so each 
> individual call is linear, but multiple calls mess things up.)
> 
> Modulo a bit of rounding, we have:
> 
> msecs_to_jiffies(a + b) = msecs_to_jiffies(a) + msecs_to_jiffies(b)
> msecs_to_jiffies(a) * b = msecs_to_jiffies(a * b)
> prandom_u32_max(a) * b = prandom_u32_max(a * b)
> prandom_u32_max(msecs_to_jiffies(a)) = msecs_to_jiffies(prandom_u32_max(a))
> 
> By doing the addition in jiffies rather than milliseconds, we get the 
> cheap code.  It's not a huge big deal, but it's definitely smaller and 
> faster.
> 
> Admittedly, I happen to be using HZ = 300, which requires a multiply to 
> convert, and makes the resultant random numbers slightly non-uniform.  
> The default HZ = 250 makes it just a divide by 4, which is pretty simple.
> 
> (When HZ = 300, you get 1..3 ms -> 1 jiffy, 4..6 ms -> 2 jiffies, and
> 7..10 ms -> 3 jiffies.  Multiples of 3 are 33% more likely to be chosen.)
> 
> It just seems silly and wasteful to pick a random number between 0 and 
> 4999 (plus 30000), only to convert it to a random number between 0 and 
> 1249 (plus 7500).
> 
> And if HZ = 2000 ever happens, the timeout won't be artificially limited
> to integer milliseconds.
> 

Thanks for the detail explanation.
Acked-by: Joseph Qi <joseph.qi@linux.alibaba.com>

      reply	other threads:[~2020-03-31  0:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-21  3:07 George Spelvin
2020-03-30 12:09 ` Joseph Qi
2020-03-30 16:34   ` George Spelvin
2020-03-31  0:56     ` Joseph Qi [this message]

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