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From: John Garry <john.garry@huawei.com>
To: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>
Cc: <peterz@infradead.org>, <mingo@redhat.com>, <acme@kernel.org>,
	<alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>, <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	<ak@linux.intel.com>, <wcohen@redhat.com>, <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	<ganapatrao.kulkarni@cavium.com>, <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	<mark.rutland@arm.com>, <xuwei5@hisilicon.com>,
	<linuxarm@huawei.com>, <zhangshaokun@hisilicon.com>,
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/5] perf jevents: add support for arch recommended events
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2017 11:22:50 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5d322353-2785-a99f-bcd8-b948bd6cb09a@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171209073104.GB14297@krava>

>> Actually having a scalable JSON standard format for pmu events, which allows
>> us to define common events per architecture / vendor and reference them per
>> platform JSON could be useful.
>>
>> Here we're dealing with trade-off between duplication (simplicity) vs
>> complexity (or over-engineering).
>
> understood, but as I said we already are ok with duplicates,
> if it's reasonable size as is for x86 now..  how much amount
> are we talking about for arm?
>

Hi Jirka,

When you say reasonable size for x86, I ran a string duplication finder 
on the x86 JSONs and the results show a huge amount of duplication. 
Please check this:
https://gist.githubusercontent.com/johnpgarry/68bc87e823ae2ce0f7b475b4e55e5795/raw/f4cea138999d8b34151b9586d733592e01774d7a/x86%2520JSON%2520duplication

Extract:
"Found a 65 line (311 tokens) duplication in the following files:
Starting at line 100 of 
/linux/tools/perf/pmu-events/arch/x86/ivybridge/ivb-metrics.json
Starting at line 100 of 
/linux/tools/perf/pmu-events/arch/x86/ivytown/ivt-metrics.json
Starting at line 100 of 
/linux/tools/perf/pmu-events/arch/x86/broadwell/bdw-metrics.json
Starting at line 100 of 
/linux/tools/perf/pmu-events/arch/x86/skylakex/skx-metrics.json
Starting at line 76 of 
/linux/tools/perf/pmu-events/arch/x86/jaketown/jkt-metrics.json
Starting at line 100 of 
/linux/tools/perf/pmu-events/arch/x86/skylake/skl-metrics.json
Starting at line 76 of 
/linux/tools/perf/pmu-events/arch/x86/sandybridge/snb-metrics.json
Starting at line 100 of 
/linux/tools/perf/pmu-events/arch/x86/broadwellx/bdx-metrics.json"

Won't this all potentially have a big maintainence cost?

For example, I saw multiple JSON update patches which look identical:
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/tools/perf/pmu-events/arch/x86?h=v4.15-rc3&id=7347bba5552f479d4292ffd008d18d41a965f021

https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/tools/perf/pmu-events/arch/x86?h=v4.15-rc3&id=984d91f4c62f64026cbfef51f609971025934cec

I just don't know how this schema scales with more archs and more 
platforms supported. It's just early days now...

Regards,
John

> jirka
>
> .
>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-12-15 11:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-05 16:13 [RFC PATCH 0/5] perf events patches for improved ARM64 support John Garry
2017-12-05 16:13 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] perf jevents: add support for pmu events vendor subdirectory John Garry
2017-12-06 13:38   ` Jiri Olsa
2017-12-06 14:41     ` John Garry
2017-12-05 16:13 ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] perf jevents: add support for arch recommended events John Garry
2017-12-05 17:27   ` Andi Kleen
2017-12-06  8:34     ` John Garry
2017-12-06 13:36   ` Jiri Olsa
2017-12-06 15:20     ` John Garry
2017-12-08 12:29       ` Jiri Olsa
2017-12-08 15:42         ` John Garry
2017-12-09  7:31           ` Jiri Olsa
2017-12-11 10:25             ` John Garry
2017-12-15 11:22             ` John Garry [this message]
2017-12-16 18:47               ` Andi Kleen
2018-01-02 12:07                 ` John Garry
2018-01-02 17:48                   ` Andi Kleen
2018-01-03 12:22                     ` John Garry
2017-12-21 19:39               ` Jiri Olsa
2018-01-04 17:17                 ` John Garry
2018-01-08 14:08                   ` Jiri Olsa
2017-12-06 13:37   ` Jiri Olsa
2017-12-06 14:40     ` John Garry
2017-12-08 12:31       ` Jiri Olsa
2017-12-08 15:38         ` John Garry
2017-12-09  7:26           ` Jiri Olsa
2017-12-05 16:13 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] perf vendor events arm64: add armv8 recommended events JSON John Garry
2017-12-05 16:13 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] perf vendor events arm64: relocate thunderx2 JSON John Garry
2017-12-05 16:13 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] perf vendor events arm64: add HiSilicon hip08 JSON John Garry
2017-12-06 16:42 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] perf events patches for improved ARM64 support William Cohen
2017-12-06 17:35   ` John Garry

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