From: Changwoo Min <changwoo@igalia.com>
To: Donald Hunter <donald.hunter@gmail.com>,
Lukasz Luba <lukasz.luba@arm.com>,
linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, sched-ext@lists.linux.dev,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
Network Development <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Concerns with em.yaml YNL spec
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2025 20:14:08 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5d3c37c0-d956-410d-83c8-24323d6f2aea@igalia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAD4GDZy-aeWsiY=-ATr+Y4PzhMX71DFd_mmdMk4rxn3YG8U5GA@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Donald,
Thanks for the feedback. I rearranged a paragraph in the original email
for easier reply.
On 12/12/25 00:54, Donald Hunter wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I guess the patch series was never cced to netdev or the YNL
> maintainers so this is my first opportunity to review it.
>
You are right. I think I ran get_maintainer.pl only before adding
em.yaml. That's my bad.
> I just spotted the new em.yaml YNL spec that got merged in
> bd26631ccdfd ("PM: EM: Add em.yaml and autogen files") as part of [1]
> because it introduced new yamllint reports:
>
> make -C tools/net/ynl/ lint
> make: Entering directory '/home/donaldh/net-next/tools/net/ynl'
> yamllint ../../../Documentation/netlink/specs
> ../../../Documentation/netlink/specs/em.yaml
> 3:1 warning missing document start "---" (document-start)
> 107:13 error wrong indentation: expected 10 but found 12 (indentation)
>
I will fix these lint warnings. Besides fixing those warnings, it would
be useful to mention running lint somewhere. If there is a general
guideline for adding a new netlink YAML, I will revise it in a separate
patch.
> Other than the lint messages, there are a few concerns with the
> content of the spec:
>
> - pds, pd and ps might be meaningful to energy model experts but they
> are pretty meaningless to the rest of us. I see they are spelled out
> in the energy model header file so it would be better to use
> perf-domain, perf-table and perf-state here.
>
That makes sense. I will change as suggested.
> - I think the spec could have been called energy-model.yaml and the
> family called "energy-model" instead of "em".
>
> - the get-pds should probably be both do and dump which would give
> multi responses without the need for the pds attribute set (unless I'm
> missing something).
>
TODO
> - there are 2 flags attributes that are bare u64 which should have
> flags definitions in the YNL. Have a look at e.g. netdev.yaml to see
> examples of flags definitions.
>
Okay. I will add the following (from energy_model.h) for the flags:
#define EM_PERF_DOMAIN_MICROWATTS BIT(0)
#define EM_PERF_DOMAIN_SKIP_INEFFICIENCIES BIT(1)
#define EM_PERF_DOMAIN_ARTIFICIAL BIT(2)
> - the cpus attribute is a string which would appear to be a "%*pb"
> stringification of a bitmap. That's not very consumable for a UAPI and
> should probably use netlink bitmask or an array of cpu numbers or
> something.
>
Okay. I will change the string representation to an integer array of CPU
numbers.
> - there are no doc strings for any of the attributes. It would be
> great to do better for new YNL specs, esp. since there is better
> information in energy_model.h
>
Sure, I will add doc strings based on the comments in the
energy_model.h.
> Given that netlink is UAPI, I think we need to address these issues
> before v6.19 gets released.
Sure. I will prepare the changes quickly.
Regards,
Changwoo Min
>
> Thanks,
> Donald Hunter.
>
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20251020220914.320832-4-changwoo@igalia.com/
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-12-14 11:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-12-11 15:54 Donald Hunter
2025-12-11 17:01 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-12-14 11:35 ` Changwoo Min
2025-12-14 16:21 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-12-15 1:57 ` Changwoo Min
2025-12-15 10:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-12-15 15:01 ` Changwoo Min
2025-12-15 15:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-12-16 2:06 ` Changwoo Min
2025-12-11 17:04 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-12-11 17:09 ` Donald Hunter
2025-12-11 17:47 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-12-14 11:14 ` Changwoo Min [this message]
2025-12-14 11:38 ` Changwoo Min
2025-12-15 10:51 ` Donald Hunter
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