From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Scott Cheloha <cheloha@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
nathanl@linux.ibm.com, ricklind@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] drivers/base/memory.c: cache blocks in radix tree to accelerate lookup
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2020 10:24:00 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5dac8dc2-08a8-394f-d464-433d74ec62c1@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200109091934.GK4951@dhcp22.suse.cz>
On 09.01.20 10:19, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Thu 09-01-20 09:56:23, Greg KH wrote:
>> On Thu, Jan 09, 2020 at 09:49:55AM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
>>> On Tue 07-01-20 22:48:04, Michal Hocko wrote:
>>>> [Cc Andrew]
>>>>
>>>> On Tue 17-12-19 13:32:38, Scott Cheloha wrote:
>>>>> Searching for a particular memory block by id is slow because each block
>>>>> device is kept in an unsorted linked list on the subsystem bus.
>>>>
>>>> Noting that this is O(N^2) would be useful.
>>>>
>>>>> Lookup is much faster if we cache the blocks in a radix tree.
>>>>
>>>> While this is really easy and straightforward, is there any reason why
>>>> subsys_find_device_by_id has to use such a slow lookup? I suspect nobody
>>>> simply needed a more optimized data structure for that purpose yet.
>>>> Would it be too hard to use radix tree for all lookups rather than
>>>> adding a shadow copy for memblocks?
>>>
>>> Greg, Rafael, this seems to be your domain. Do you have any opinion on
>>> this?
>>
>> No one has cared about the speed of that call as it has never been on
>> any "fast path" that I know of. And it should just be O(N), isn't it
>> just walking the list of devices in order?
>
> Which means that if you have to call it N times then it is O(N^2) and
> that is the case here because you are adding N memblocks. See
> memory_dev_init
> for each memblock
> add_memory_block
> init_memory_block
> find_memory_block_by_id # checks all existing devices
> register_memory
> device_register # add new device
>
> In this particular case find_memory_block_by_id is called mostly to make
> sure we are no re-registering something multiple times which shouldn't
> happen so it sucks to spend a lot of time on that. We might think of
> removing that for boot time but who knows what kind of surprises we
> might see from crazy HW setups.
>
>> If the "memory subsystem" wants a faster lookup for their objects,
>> there's nothing stopping you from using your own data structure for the
>> pointers to the objects if you want. Just be careful about the lifetime
>> rules.
>
> The main question is whether replacing the linked list with a radix tree
> in the generic code is something more meaningful.
>
Please note that there are a total of 2 (!) users of
subsys_find_device_by_id() only ... makes me wonder if we should get rid
of subsys_find_device_by_id() instead and handle it only in the caller
directly. Rewriting the core (list->tree with all the locking logic)
sounds to me like an unnecessary rework.
--
Thanks,
David / dhildenb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-01-09 9:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-11-20 19:25 [PATCH] memory subsystem: cache memory " Scott Cheloha
2019-11-21 9:34 ` David Hildenbrand
2019-11-21 9:35 ` David Hildenbrand
2019-11-21 19:59 ` [PATCH v2] drivers/base/memory.c: cache " Scott Cheloha
2019-11-25 6:36 ` kbuild test robot
2019-12-17 19:32 ` [PATCH v3] " Scott Cheloha
2019-12-18 9:00 ` David Hildenbrand
2019-12-19 17:33 ` Scott Cheloha
2019-12-20 10:50 ` David Hildenbrand
2019-12-19 18:09 ` Nathan Lynch
2020-01-07 21:48 ` Michal Hocko
2020-01-08 13:36 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-01-08 14:21 ` Michal Hocko
2020-01-08 15:23 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-01-09 8:49 ` Michal Hocko
2020-01-09 8:56 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-01-09 9:19 ` Michal Hocko
2020-01-09 9:24 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2020-01-09 9:31 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-01-09 9:41 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-01-09 9:33 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-01-09 9:50 ` Michal Hocko
2020-01-09 9:48 ` Michal Hocko
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