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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Brian Gerst <brgerst@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Borislav Petkov" <bp@alien8.de>,
	"Andy Lutomirski" <luto@kernel.org>,
	"Mika Penttilä" <mpenttil@redhat.com>,
	"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Uros Bizjak" <ubizjak@gmail.com>,
	"Denys Vlasenko" <dvlasenk@redhat.com>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Josh Poimboeuf" <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/6] x86: Clean up fast syscall return validation
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2023 11:59:22 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5def7e28-3949-9685-7ddf-19b550847ef0@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZR8an4+JbkLS8/Ol@gmail.com>

On 10/5/23 13:20, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> * Brian Gerst <brgerst@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Looking at the compiled output, the only suboptimal code appears to be
>> the canonical address test, where the C code uses the CL register for
>> the shifts instead of immediates.
>>
>>   180:   e9 00 00 00 00          jmp    185 <do_syscall_64+0x85>
>>                          181: R_X86_64_PC32      .altinstr_aux-0x4
>>   185:   b9 07 00 00 00          mov    $0x7,%ecx
>>   18a:   eb 05                   jmp    191 <do_syscall_64+0x91>
>>   18c:   b9 10 00 00 00          mov    $0x10,%ecx
>>   191:   48 89 c2                mov    %rax,%rdx
>>   194:   48 d3 e2                shl    %cl,%rdx
>>   197:   48 d3 fa                sar    %cl,%rdx
>>   19a:   48 39 d0                cmp    %rdx,%rax
>>   19d:   75 39                   jne    1d8 <do_syscall_64+0xd8>
> 
> Yeah, it didn't look equivalent - so I guess we want a C equivalent for:
> 
> -       ALTERNATIVE "shl $(64 - 48), %rcx; sar $(64 - 48), %rcx", \
> -               "shl $(64 - 57), %rcx; sar $(64 - 57), %rcx", X86_FEATURE_LA57
> 
> instead of the pgtable_l5_enabled() runtime test that
> __is_canonical_address() uses?
> 

I don't think such a thing (without simply duplicate the above as an 
alternative asm, which is obviously easy enough, and still allows the 
compiler to pick the register used) would be possible without immediate 
patching support[*].

Incidentally, this is a question for Uros: is there a reason this is a 
mov to %ecx and not just %cl, which would save 3 bytes?

Incidentally, it is possible to save one instruction and use only *one* 
alternative immediate:

	leaq (%rax,%rax),%rdx
	xorq %rax,%rdx
	shrq $(63 - LA),%rdx		# Yes, 63, not 64
	# ZF=1 if canonical

This works because if bit [x] is set in the output, then bit [x] and 
[x-1] in the input are different (bit [-1] considered to be zero); and 
by definition a bit is canonical if and only if all the bits [63:LA] are 
identical, thus bits [63:LA+1] in the output must all be zero.

The first two instructions are pure arithmetic and can thus be done in C:

	bar = foo ^ (foo << 1);

... leaving only one instruction needing to be patched at runtime.

	-hpa



[*] which is a whole bit of infrastructure that I know first-hand is 
extremely complex[**] -- I had an almost-complete patchset done at one 
time, but it has severely bitrotted. The good part is that it is 
probably a lot easier to do today, with the alternatives-patching 
callback routines available.

[**] the absolute best would of course be if such infrastructure could 
be compiler-supported (probably as part as some really fancy support for 
alternatives/static branch), but that would probably be a nightmare to 
do in the compiler or a plugin.



  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-06 19:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-21 16:10 Brian Gerst
2023-07-21 16:10 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] x86/entry/64: Remove obsolete comment on tracing vs. SYSRET Brian Gerst
2023-10-05  8:28   ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Brian Gerst
2023-07-21 16:10 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] x86/entry/64: Convert SYSRET validation tests to C Brian Gerst
2023-07-23  9:53   ` Li, Xin3
2023-07-23 11:17     ` Brian Gerst
2023-07-21 16:10 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] x86/entry/compat: Combine return value test from syscall handler Brian Gerst
2023-10-05  8:28   ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Brian Gerst
2023-07-21 16:10 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] x86/entry/32: Convert do_fast_syscall_32() to bool return type Brian Gerst
2023-10-05  8:28   ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Brian Gerst
2023-07-21 16:10 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] x86/entry/32: Remove SEP test for SYSEXIT Brian Gerst
2023-10-05  8:28   ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Brian Gerst
2023-07-21 16:10 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] x86/entry/32: Clean up syscall fast exit tests Brian Gerst
2023-10-05  8:22 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] x86: Clean up fast syscall return validation Ingo Molnar
2023-10-05 15:13   ` Brian Gerst
2023-10-05 20:20     ` Ingo Molnar
2023-10-06 18:59       ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2023-10-06 21:32         ` Brian Gerst
2023-10-07  9:42           ` Ingo Molnar
2023-10-06 23:58         ` H. Peter Anvin
2023-10-07  9:56         ` Uros Bizjak
2023-10-07 18:07           ` Linus Torvalds

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