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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: Gabriele Monaco <gmonaco@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 1/2] sched: Move task_mm_cid_work to mm work_struct
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2025 10:30:41 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5fc6daa0-30d6-4fcd-b58b-a570aeed5691@efficios.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c9026605-da1b-4631-b0dd-68ae0700ec87@efficios.com>

On 2025-02-20 09:42, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> On 2025-02-20 05:26, Gabriele Monaco wrote:
>> Currently, the task_mm_cid_work function is called in a task work
>> triggered by a scheduler tick to frequently compact the mm_cids of each
>> process. This can delay the execution of the corresponding thread for
>> the entire duration of the function, negatively affecting the response
>> in case of real time tasks. In practice, we observe task_mm_cid_work
>> increasing the latency of 30-35us on a 128 cores system, this order of
>> magnitude is meaningful under PREEMPT_RT.
>>
>> Run the task_mm_cid_work in a new work_struct connected to the
>> mm_struct rather than in the task context before returning to
>> userspace.
>>
>> This work_struct is initialised with the mm and disabled before freeing
>> it. The queuing of the work happens while returning to userspace in
>> __rseq_handle_notify_resume, maintaining the checks to avoid running
>> more frequently than MM_CID_SCAN_DELAY.
>> To make sure this happens predictably also on long running tasks, we
>> trigger a call to __rseq_handle_notify_resume also from the scheduler
>> tick (which in turn will also schedule the work item).
>>
>> The main advantage of this change is that the function can be offloaded
>> to a different CPU and even preempted by RT tasks.
>>
>> Moreover, this new behaviour is more predictable with periodic tasks
>> with short runtime, which may rarely run during a scheduler tick.
>> Now, the work is always scheduled when the task returns to userspace.
>>
>> The work is disabled during mmdrop, since the function cannot sleep in
>> all kernel configurations, we cannot wait for possibly running work
>> items to terminate. We make sure the mm is valid in case the task is
>> terminating by reserving it with mmgrab/mmdrop, returning prematurely if
>> we are really the last user while the work gets to run.
>> This situation is unlikely since we don't schedule the work for exiting
>> tasks, but we cannot rule it out.
>>
>> Fixes: 223baf9d17f2 ("sched: Fix performance regression introduced by 
>> mm_cid")
>> Signed-off-by: Gabriele Monaco <gmonaco@redhat.com>
>> ---
> [...]
>> diff --git a/kernel/sched/core.c b/kernel/sched/core.c
>> index 9aecd914ac691..363e51dd25175 100644
>> --- a/kernel/sched/core.c
>> +++ b/kernel/sched/core.c
>> @@ -5663,7 +5663,7 @@ void sched_tick(void)
>>           resched_latency = cpu_resched_latency(rq);
>>       calc_global_load_tick(rq);
>>       sched_core_tick(rq);
>> -    task_tick_mm_cid(rq, donor);
>> +    rseq_preempt(donor);
>>       scx_tick(rq);
>>       rq_unlock(rq, &rf);
> 
> There is one tiny important detail worth discussing here: I wonder if
> executing a __rseq_handle_notify_resume() on return to userspace on
> every scheduler tick will cause noticeable performance degradation ?
> 
> I think we can mitigate the impact if we can quickly compute the amount
> of contiguous unpreempted runtime since last preemption, then we could
> use this as a way to only issue rseq_preempt() when there has been a
> minimum amount of contiguous unpreempted execution. Otherwise the
> rseq_preempt() already issued by preemption is enough.
> 
> I'm not entirely sure how to compute this "unpreempted contiguous
> runtime" value within sched_tick() though, any ideas ?

I just discussed this with Peter over IRC, here is a possible way
forward for this:

The fair class has the information we are looking for as:

   se->sum_exec_runtime - se->prev_sum_exec_runtime

for rt and dl classes, we'll need to keep track of prev_sum_exec_runtime
in their respective set_next_entity() in the same way as fair does.
AFAIU it's not tracked at the moment in neither rt and dl.

Then we can decide for a threshold of consecutive runtime that makes
sense to trigger a rseq_preempt() from sched_tick(), and use that to
lessen its impact.

Thanks,

Mathieu

> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mathieu
> 


-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
https://www.efficios.com

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-02-20 15:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-20 10:26 [PATCH v8 0/2] sched: Restructure task_mm_cid_work for predictability Gabriele Monaco
2025-02-20 10:26 ` [PATCH v8 1/2] sched: Move task_mm_cid_work to mm work_struct Gabriele Monaco
2025-02-20 14:42   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-02-20 15:30     ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-02-20 15:47       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-02-20 17:31         ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-02-20 21:10           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-02-20 15:30     ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2025-02-20 10:26 ` [PATCH v8 2/2] selftests/rseq: Add test for mm_cid compaction Gabriele Monaco

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