From: Abel Wu <wuyun.abel@bytedance.com>
To: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
Josh Don <joshdon@google.com>,
Tianchen Ding <dtcccc@linux.alibaba.com>,
"open list:SCHEDULER" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Re: [PATCH 2/2] sched/fair: Fix premature check of WAKEUP_PREEMPTION
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2025 23:57:57 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6097164a-aa99-4869-b666-9dc7018c1f96@bytedance.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKfTPtBzsX6GKZP_NGTONrkp96qx9uOHr0+XG7tC6ELy4tbHBg@mail.gmail.com>
On 2/21/25 7:49 PM, Vincent Guittot Wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 at 12:12, Abel Wu <wuyun.abel@bytedance.com> wrote:
>>
>> Idle tasks are by definition preempted by non-idle tasks whether feat
>> WAKEUP_PREEMPTION is enabled or not. This isn't true any longer since
>
> I don't think it's true, only "sched_idle never preempts others" is
> always true but sched_feat(WAKEUP_PREEMPTION) is mainly there for
> debug purpose so if WAKEUP_PREEMPTION is false then nobody preempts
> others at wakeup, idle, batch or normal
Hi Vincent, thanks for your comment!
The SCHED_IDLE "definition" of being preempted by non-idle tasks comes
from commit 6bc912b71b6f ("sched: SCHED_OTHER vs SCHED_IDLE isolation")
which said:
- no SCHED_IDLE buddies
- never let SCHED_IDLE preempt on wakeup
- always preempt SCHED_IDLE on wakeup
- limit SLEEPER fairness for SCHED_IDLE
and that commit let it be preempted before checking WAKEUP_PREEMPTION.
The rules were introduced in 2009, and to the best of my knowledge there
seemed no behavior change ever since. Please correct me if I missed
anything.
Best Regards,
Abel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-02-21 15:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-02-21 11:12 [PATCH 0/2] Fix SCHED_IDLE behavior on wakeup preemption Abel Wu
2025-02-21 11:12 ` [PATCH 1/2] sched/fair: Do not let idle entities preempt others Abel Wu
2025-02-21 11:48 ` Vincent Guittot
2025-02-21 19:54 ` Josh Don
2025-02-22 17:12 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2025-02-22 17:48 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2025-02-23 8:45 ` Abel Wu
2025-02-21 11:12 ` [PATCH 2/2] sched/fair: Fix premature check of WAKEUP_PREEMPTION Abel Wu
2025-02-21 11:49 ` Vincent Guittot
2025-02-21 15:57 ` Abel Wu [this message]
2025-02-22 18:16 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2025-02-23 8:44 ` Abel Wu
2025-02-23 10:25 ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2025-02-23 11:22 ` Abel Wu
2025-02-24 13:47 ` Vincent Guittot
2025-02-24 14:10 ` Phil Auld
2025-02-25 17:14 ` Vincent Guittot
2025-02-25 6:29 ` Abel Wu
2025-02-25 17:15 ` Vincent Guittot
2025-02-26 7:34 ` Abel Wu
2025-02-25 6:56 ` Tianchen Ding
2025-02-24 13:22 ` Vincent Guittot
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