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From: Alex Bligh <alex@alex.org.uk>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Alex Bligh <alex@alex.org.uk>
Subject: Re: REQ_FLUSH, REQ_FUA and open/close of block devices
Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 09:42:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <60FB7C5F40961417F1605595@nimrod.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110520122010.GA25628@infradead.org>



--On 20 May 2011 08:20:10 -0400 Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> wrote:

> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 04:06:27PM +0100, Alex Bligh wrote:
>> Should a close() of a dirty block device result in a REQ_FLUSH?
>
> No, why would it?  That's what fsync is for.

I had thought fsync() was meant to be implicit in a close of a raw device
though perhaps that's my faulty memory; I think you are saying it's
up to userspace to fix these; fair enough.

However, I'm also seeing writes to the device after the last flush when
the device is unmounted. Specifically, a sequence ending
  mount -t ext3 -odata=journal,barrier=1 /dev/nbd0 /mnt
  (cd /mnt ; tar cvzf /dev/null . ; sync) 2>&1 >/dev/null
  dbench -D /mnt 1 &
  sleep 10
  killall dbench
  sleep 2
  killall -KILL dbench
  sync
  umount /mnt

produces these commands (at the end):
  Sending command: NBD_CMD_WRITE [NONE] (0x00000001)
  Sending command: NBD_CMD_WRITE [NONE] (0x00000001)
  Sending command: NBD_CMD_FLUSH [NONE] (0x00000003)
  Sending command: NBD_CMD_WRITE [FUA] (0x00010001)
  Sending command: NBD_CMD_WRITE [NONE] (0x00000001)
  Sending command: NBD_CMD_WRITE [NONE] (0x00000001)
  Sending command: NBD_CMD_WRITE [NONE] (0x00000001)
  Sending command: NBD_CMD_WRITE [NONE] (0x00000001)
  Sending command: NBD_CMD_WRITE [NONE] (0x00000001)
  Sending command: NBD_CMD_WRITE [NONE] (0x00000001)
  Sending command: NBD_CMD_WRITE [NONE] (0x00000001)
  Sending command: NBD_CMD_WRITE [NONE] (0x00000001)
  Sending command: NBD_CMD_WRITE [NONE] (0x00000001)

(I'm testing this out by adding flush and fua support to nbd, see
git.alex.org.uk if this is interesting).

What I am concerned about is that relatively normal actions (e.g. unmount
a filing system) do not appear to be flushing all data, even though I
did "sync" then "umount". I suspect the sync is generating the FLUSH here,
and nothing is flushing the umount writes. How can I know as a block
device that I have to write out a (long lasting) writeback cache if
I don't receive anything beyond the last WRITE?

-- 
Alex Bligh

  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-21  8:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-19 15:06 Alex Bligh
2011-05-20 12:20 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-05-21  8:42   ` Alex Bligh [this message]
2011-05-22 10:44     ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-05-22 11:17       ` Alex Bligh
2011-05-22 11:26         ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-05-22 12:00           ` Alex Bligh
2011-05-22 12:04             ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-05-22 16:56       ` Jeff Garzik

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