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From: Shuai Xue <xueshuai@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>, Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
Cc: rostedt@goodmis.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-edac@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	ilpo.jarvinen@linux.intel.com, mattc@purestorage.com,
	Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com, bhelgaas@google.com,
	tony.luck@intel.com, bp@alien8.de, mhiramat@kernel.org,
	mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com, oleg@redhat.com,
	naveen@kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net,
	anil.s.keshavamurthy@intel.com, mark.rutland@arm.com,
	peterz@infradead.org, tianruidong@linux.alibaba.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 2/2] PCI: trace: Add a RAS tracepoint to monitor link speed changes
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2025 17:28:28 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <61ec82be-a081-4b32-aa4a-a3ad6e564d23@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aISJHjFrHkxVNFzJ@wunner.de>



在 2025/7/26 15:51, Lukas Wunner 写道:
> On Fri, Jul 25, 2025 at 04:09:21PM -0500, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
>>> @@ -319,8 +319,7 @@ int pciehp_check_link_status(struct controller *ctrl)
>>>   		return -1;
>>>   	}
>>>   
>>> -	pcie_capability_read_word(pdev, PCI_EXP_LNKSTA2, &linksta2);
>>> -	__pcie_update_link_speed(ctrl->pcie->port->subordinate, lnk_status, linksta2);
>>> +	pcie_update_link_speed(ctrl->pcie->port->subordinate, PCIE_HOTPLUG);
>>
>> It kind of bugs me that the hot-add flow reads LNKSTA three times and
>> generates both pci_hp_event LINK_UP and link_event tracepoints:
>>
>>    pciehp_handle_presence_or_link_change
>>      link_active = pciehp_check_link_active()
>>        pcie_capability_read_word(PCI_EXP_LNKSTA)
>>      if (link_active)
>>        ctrl_info(ctrl, "Slot(%s): Link Up\n")
> 
> This LNKSTA read decides whether to bring up the slot.
> It can't be eliminated.
> 
>>        trace_pci_hp_event(PCI_HOTPLUG_LINK_UP)
>>        pciehp_enable_slot
>>          __pciehp_enable_slot
>>            board_added
>>              pciehp_check_link_status
>>                pcie_capability_read_word(PCI_EXP_LNKSTA)
> 
> This is sort of a final check whether the link is (still) active
> before commencing device enumeration.  Doesn't look like it can
> safely be eliminated either.
> 
>>                pcie_update_link_speed
>>                  pcie_capability_read_word(PCI_EXP_LNKSTA)
>>                  pcie_capability_read_word(PCI_EXP_LNKSTA2)
>>                  trace_pcie_link_event(<REASON>)
> 
> This third register read is introduced by the present patch and is
> indeed somewhat a step back, given that pciehp_check_link_status()
> currently deliberately calls __pcie_update_link_speed() to pass
> the already read LNKSTA value.

Hi Lukas, and Bjorn:

Thanks for the excellent technical analysis!

You're absolutely right. I introduced an unnecessary regression by
adding a third LNKSTA read when pciehp_check_link_status() already has
the LNKSTA value and was specifically designed to pass it to
__pcie_update_link_speed().

> 
> I'm wondering if the tracepoint can be moved down to
> __pcie_update_link_speed()?

Yes, that's a much better approach. Will fix it in next version.

> 
>> And maybe we need both a bare LINK_UP event and a link_event with all
>> the details, but again it seems a little weird to me that there are
>> two tracepoints when there's really only one event and we know all the
>> link_event information from the very first LNKSTA read.
> 
> One of the reasons is that a "Link Down" event would have to
> contain dummy values for link speed etc, so it seemed cleaner
> to separate the hotplug event from the link speed event.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Lukas

I agree with Lukas and I completely agree with this separation. The two
tracepoints serve different purposes:

- pci_hp_event: Pure hotplug state changes (LINK_UP/LINK_DOWN,
   CARD_PRESENT/CARD_NOT_PRESENT)
- pcie_link_event: Actual link parameter information when meaningful
   values exist

For LINK_DOWN events, we don't have meaningful speed/width values, so
forcing them into a single tracepoint would indeed require dummy/invalid
values, making the interface confusing.

Thanks for the clear technical guidance and for catching my regression!

Best regards,
Shuai

  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-28  9:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-23  3:31 [PATCH v9 0/2] add PCI hotplug and PCIe link tracepoint Shuai Xue
2025-07-23  3:31 ` [PATCH v9 1/2] PCI: trace: Add a generic RAS tracepoint for hotplug event Shuai Xue
2025-07-25 21:09   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-28  9:05     ` Shuai Xue
2025-07-23  3:31 ` [PATCH v9 2/2] PCI: trace: Add a RAS tracepoint to monitor link speed changes Shuai Xue
2025-07-23 14:05   ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-25  2:11     ` Shuai Xue
2025-07-25  2:25       ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-25  2:59         ` Shuai Xue
2025-07-25  3:06           ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-25  3:15             ` Shuai Xue
2025-07-23 19:30   ` kernel test robot
2025-07-24 14:06     ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-25  2:31       ` Shuai Xue
2025-07-25  2:57         ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-25  3:18           ` Shuai Xue
2025-07-25 21:09   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-07-26  7:51     ` Lukas Wunner
2025-07-28  9:28       ` Shuai Xue [this message]
2025-07-28  9:17     ` Shuai Xue
2025-09-18 23:06 ` [PATCH v9 0/2] add PCI hotplug and PCIe link tracepoint Bjorn Helgaas
2025-09-19  1:40   ` Shuai Xue

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