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From: Yunsheng Lin <linyunsheng@huawei.com>
To: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org>, <davem@davemloft.net>,
	<kuba@kernel.org>, <pabeni@redhat.com>
Cc: <liuyonglong@huawei.com>, <fanghaiqing@huawei.com>,
	<zhangkun09@huawei.com>, Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@gmail.com>,
	IOMMU <iommu@lists.linux.dev>,
	Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>, <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v4 2/3] page_pool: fix IOMMU crash when driver has already unbound
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2024 16:22:30 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6233e2c3-3fea-4ed0-bdcc-9a625270da37@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ac728cc1-2ccb-4207-ae11-527a3ed8fbb6@kernel.org>

On 2024/11/25 23:25, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:

...

>>>> +
>>>>    void page_pool_destroy(struct page_pool *pool)
>>>>    {
>>>>        if (!pool)
>>>> @@ -1139,6 +1206,8 @@ void page_pool_destroy(struct page_pool *pool)
>>>>         */
>>>>        synchronize_rcu();
>>>>    +    page_pool_inflight_unmap(pool);
>>>> +
>>>
>>> Reaching here means we have detected in-flight packets/pages.
>>>
>>> In "page_pool_inflight_unmap" we scan and find those in-flight pages to
>>> DMA unmap them. Then below we wait for these in-flight pages again.
>>> Why don't we just "release" (page_pool_release_page) those in-flight
>>> pages from belonging to the page_pool, when we found them during scanning?
>>>
>>> If doing so, we can hopefully remove the periodic checking code below.
>>
>> I thought about that too, but it means more complicated work than just
>> calling the page_pool_release_page() as page->pp_ref_count need to be
>> converted into page->_refcount for the above to work, it seems hard to
>> do that with least performance degradation as the racing against
>> page_pool_put_page() being called concurrently.
>>
> 
> Maybe we can have a design that avoid/reduce concurrency.  Can we
> convert the suggested pool->destroy_lock into an atomic?
> (Doing an *atomic* READ in page_pool_return_page, should be fast if we
> keep this cache in in (cache coherence) Shared state).
> 
> In your new/proposed page_pool_return_page() when we see the
> "destroy_cnt" (now atomic READ) bigger than zero, then we can do nothing
> (or maybe we need decrement page-refcnt?), as we know the destroy code

Is it valid to have a page->_refcount of zero when page_pool still own
the page if we only decrement page->_refcount and not clear page->pp_magic?
What happens if put_page() is called from other subsystem for a page_pool
owned page, isn't that mean the page might be returned to buddy page
allocator, causing use-after-free problem?

> will be taking care of "releasing" the pages from the page pool.

If page->_refcount is not decremented in page_pool_return_page(), how
does page_pool_destroy() know if a specific page have been called with
page_pool_return_page()? Does an extra state is needed to indicate that?

And there might still be concurrency between checking/handling of the extra
state in page_pool_destroy() and the setting of extra state in
page_pool_return_page(), something like lock might still be needed to avoid
the above concurrency.

> 
> Once the a page is release from a page pool it becomes a normal page,
> that adhere to normal page refcnt'ing. That is how it worked before with
> page_pool_release_page().
> The later extensions with page fragment support and devmem might have
> complicated this code path.

As page_pool_return_page() and page_pool_destroy() both try to "release"
the page concurrently for a specific page, I am not sure how using some
simple *atomic* can avoid this kind of concurrency even before page
fragment and devmem are supported, it would be good to be more specific
about that by using some pseudocode.

I looked at it more closely, previously page_pool_put_page() seemed to
not be allowed to be called after page_pool_release_page() had been
called for a specific page mainly because of concurrently checking/handlig
and clearing of page->pp_magic if I understand it correctly:
https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v5.16.20/source/drivers/net/ethernet/stmicro/stmmac/stmmac_main.c#L5316

  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-26  8:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20241120103456.396577-1-linyunsheng@huawei.com>
2024-11-20 10:34 ` [PATCH RFC v4 1/3] page_pool: fix timing for checking and disabling napi_local Yunsheng Lin
2024-12-03  2:49   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-12-04 11:01     ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-12-05  1:28       ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-12-05 11:43         ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-12-06  0:42           ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-12-06 12:29             ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-12-06 16:09               ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-12-07  5:52                 ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-11-20 10:34 ` [PATCH RFC v4 2/3] page_pool: fix IOMMU crash when driver has already unbound Yunsheng Lin
2024-11-20 15:10   ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-11-21  8:03     ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-11-25 15:25       ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-11-26  8:22         ` Yunsheng Lin [this message]
2024-11-26 10:22           ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-11-26 11:46             ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-11-26 21:51       ` Mina Almasry
2024-11-26 23:53         ` Alexander Duyck
2024-11-27  9:35           ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-11-27 15:31             ` Robin Murphy
2024-11-27 16:27               ` Alexander Duyck
2024-12-04 11:16                 ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-11-27 19:39             ` Mina Almasry
2024-11-20 10:34 ` [PATCH RFC v4 3/3] page_pool: skip dma sync operation for inflight pages Yunsheng Lin
2024-11-20 16:17   ` Robin Murphy
2024-11-21  8:04     ` Yunsheng Lin
2024-11-21 13:44       ` Robin Murphy
2024-11-22  7:20         ` Yunsheng Lin

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