From: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
"Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Gao Xiang <xiang@kernel.org>, Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>,
Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/4] mm: swap: Remove CLUSTER_FLAG_HUGE from swap_cluster_info:flags
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2024 08:46:35 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <62454122-d036-41e2-bd84-8a5839515ba4@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9a5cb081-c4f1-4abe-bb86-02aaca4e5433@redhat.com>
On 05/03/2024 08:35, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 05.03.24 07:11, Huang, Ying wrote:
>> Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com> writes:
>>
>>> + Hugh
>>>
>>> On 04/03/2024 22:02, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>> On 04.03.24 22:55, Ryan Roberts wrote:
>>>>> On 04/03/2024 20:50, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is the existing free_swap_and_cache(). I think _swap_info_get() would
>>>>>>>>> break
>>>>>>>>> if this could race with swapoff(), and __swap_entry_free() looks up the
>>>>>>>>> cluster
>>>>>>>>> from an array, which would also be freed by swapoff if racing:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> int free_swap_and_cache(swp_entry_t entry)
>>>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>>> struct swap_info_struct *p;
>>>>>>>>> unsigned char count;
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> if (non_swap_entry(entry))
>>>>>>>>> return 1;
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> p = _swap_info_get(entry);
>>>>>>>>> if (p) {
>>>>>>>>> count = __swap_entry_free(p, entry);
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If count dropped to 0 and
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> if (count == SWAP_HAS_CACHE)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> count is now SWAP_HAS_CACHE, there is in fact no swap entry anymore. We
>>>>>>>> removed
>>>>>>>> it. That one would have to be reclaimed asynchronously.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The existing code we would call swap_page_trans_huge_swapped() with the
>>>>>>>> SI it
>>>>>>>> obtained via _swap_info_get().
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I also don't see what should be left protecting the SI. It's not locked
>>>>>>>> anymore,
>>>>>>>> the swapcounts are at 0. We don't hold the folio lock.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> try_to_unuse() will stop as soon as si->inuse_pages is at 0. Hm ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But, assuming the caller of free_swap_and_cache() acquires the PTL first, I
>>>>>>> think this all works out ok? While free_swap_and_cache() is running,
>>>>>>> try_to_unuse() will wait for the PTL. Or if try_to_unuse() runs first, then
>>>>>>> free_swap_and_cache() will never be called because the swap entry will have
>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>> removed from the PTE?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But can't try_to_unuse() run, detect !si->inuse_pages and not even bother
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> scanning any further page tables?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But my head hurts from digging through that code.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep, glad I'm not the only one that gets headaches from swapfile.c.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let me try again:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> __swap_entry_free() might be the last user and result in "count ==
>>>>>> SWAP_HAS_CACHE".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> swapoff->try_to_unuse() will stop as soon as soon as si->inuse_pages==0.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So the question is: could someone reclaim the folio and turn
>>>>>> si->inuse_pages==0,
>>>>>> before we completed swap_page_trans_huge_swapped().
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Imagine the following: 2 MiB folio in the swapcache. Only 2 subpages are
>>>>>> still
>>>>>> references by swap entries.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Process 1 still references subpage 0 via swap entry.
>>>>>> Process 2 still references subpage 1 via swap entry.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Process 1 quits. Calls free_swap_and_cache().
>>>>>> -> count == SWAP_HAS_CACHE
>>>>>> [then, preempted in the hypervisor etc.]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Process 2 quits. Calls free_swap_and_cache().
>>>>>> -> count == SWAP_HAS_CACHE
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Process 2 goes ahead, passes swap_page_trans_huge_swapped(), and calls
>>>>>> __try_to_reclaim_swap().
>>>>>>
>>>>>> __try_to_reclaim_swap()->folio_free_swap()->delete_from_swap_cache()->put_swap_folio()->
>>>>>> free_swap_slot()->swapcache_free_entries()->swap_entry_free()->swap_range_free()->
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>> WRITE_ONCE(si->inuse_pages, si->inuse_pages - nr_entries);
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What stops swapoff to succeed after process 2 reclaimed the swap cache but
>>>>>> before process 1 finished its call to swap_page_trans_huge_swapped()?
>>>>>
>>>>> Assuming you are talking about anonymous memory, process 1 has the PTL while
>>>>> it's executing free_swap_and_cache(). try_to_unuse() iterates over every
>>>>> vma in
>>>>> every mm, and it swaps-in a page for every PTE that holds a swap entry for the
>>>>> device being swapoff'ed. It takes the PTL while converting the swap entry to
>>>>> present PTE - see unuse_pte(). Process 1 must have beaten try_to_unuse() to
>>>>> the
>>>>> particular pte, because if try_to_unuse() got there first, it would have
>>>>> converted it from a swap entry to present pte and process 1 would never even
>>>>> have called free_swap_and_cache(). So try_to_unuse() will eventually wait
>>>>> on the
>>>>> PTL until process 1 has released it after free_swap_and_cache() completes.
>>>>> Am I
>>>>> missing something? Because that part feels pretty clear to me.
>>>>
>>>> Why should try_to_unuse() do *anything* if it already finds
>>>> si->inuse_pages == 0 because we (p1 } p2) just freed the swapentries and
>>>> process
>>>> 2 managed to free the last remaining swapcache entry?
>>>
>>> Yeah ok. For some reason I thought unuse_mm() was iterating over all mms and so
>>> the `while (READ_ONCE(si->inuse_pages))` was only evaluated after iterating over
>>> every mm. Oops.
>>>
>>> So yes, I agree with you; I think this is broken. And I'm a bit worried this
>>> could be a can of worms; By the same logic, I think folio_free_swap(),
>>> swp_swapcount() and probably others are broken in the same way.
>>
>> Don't worry too much :-), we have get_swap_device() at least. We can
>> insert it anywhere we want because it's quite lightweight. And, because
>> swapoff() is so rare, the race is theoretical only.
Thanks for the response!
>>
>> For this specific case, I had thought that PTL is enough. But after
>> looking at this more, I found a race here too. Until
>> __swap_entry_free() return, we are OK, nobody can reduce the swap count
>> because we held the PTL.
Even that is not true for the shmem case: As far as I can see, shmem doesn't
have the PTL or any other synchronizing lock when it calls
free_swap_and_cache(). I don't think that changes anything solution-wise though.
>> But, after that, even if its return value is
>> SWAP_HAS_CACHE (that is, in swap cache), parallel swap_unuse() or
>> __try_to_reclaim_swap() may remove the folio from swap cache, so free
>> the swap entry. So, swapoff() can proceed to free the data structures
>> in parallel.
>>
>> To fix the race, we can add get/put_swap_device() in
>> free_swap_and_cache().
>>
>> For other places, we can check whether get/put_swap_device() has been
>> called in callers, and the swap reference we held has been decreased
>> (e.g., swap count protected by PTL, SWAP_HAS_CACHE protected by folio
>> lock).
>
> Yes, sounds reasonable. We should likely update the documentation of
> get_swap_device(), that after decrementing the refcount, the SI might become
> stale and should not be touched without a prior get_swap_device().
Yep agreed. If nobody else is planning to do it, I'll try to create a test case
that provokes the problem then put a patch together to fix it.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-03-05 8:46 UTC|newest]
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2023-10-25 14:45 [PATCH v3 0/4] Swap-out small-sized THP without splitting Ryan Roberts
2023-10-25 14:45 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] mm: swap: Remove CLUSTER_FLAG_HUGE from swap_cluster_info:flags Ryan Roberts
2024-02-22 10:19 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-22 10:20 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-26 17:41 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-27 17:10 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-27 19:17 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-28 9:37 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-28 12:12 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-28 14:57 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-28 15:12 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-28 15:18 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-01 16:27 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-01 16:31 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-03-01 16:44 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-01 17:00 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-01 17:14 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-01 17:18 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-01 17:06 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-04 4:52 ` Barry Song
2024-03-04 5:42 ` Barry Song
2024-03-05 7:41 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-01 16:31 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-01 16:32 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-04 16:03 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-04 17:30 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-04 18:38 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-04 20:50 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-04 21:55 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-04 22:02 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-04 22:34 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-05 6:11 ` Huang, Ying
2024-03-05 8:35 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-03-05 8:46 ` Ryan Roberts [this message]
2024-02-28 13:33 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-02-28 14:24 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-28 14:59 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-10-25 14:45 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] mm: swap: Remove struct percpu_cluster Ryan Roberts
2023-10-25 14:45 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] mm: swap: Simplify ssd behavior when scanner steals entry Ryan Roberts
2023-10-25 14:45 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] mm: swap: Swap-out small-sized THP without splitting Ryan Roberts
2023-10-30 8:18 ` Huang, Ying
2023-10-30 13:59 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-10-31 8:12 ` Huang, Ying
2023-11-03 11:42 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-02 7:40 ` Barry Song
2023-11-02 10:21 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-02 22:36 ` Barry Song
2023-11-03 11:31 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-03 13:57 ` Steven Price
2023-11-04 9:34 ` Barry Song
2023-11-06 10:12 ` Steven Price
2023-11-06 21:39 ` Barry Song
2023-11-08 11:51 ` Steven Price
2023-11-07 12:46 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-07 18:05 ` Barry Song
2023-11-08 11:23 ` Barry Song
2023-11-08 20:20 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-08 21:04 ` Barry Song
2023-11-04 5:49 ` Barry Song
2024-02-05 9:51 ` Barry Song
2024-02-05 12:14 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-18 23:40 ` Barry Song
2024-02-20 20:03 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-05 9:00 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-03-05 9:54 ` Barry Song
2024-03-05 10:44 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-27 12:28 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-27 13:37 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-28 2:46 ` Barry Song
2024-02-22 7:05 ` Barry Song
2024-02-22 10:09 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-23 9:46 ` Barry Song
2024-02-27 12:05 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-28 1:23 ` Barry Song
2024-02-28 9:34 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-28 23:18 ` Barry Song
2024-02-28 15:57 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-29 7:47 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] " Barry Song
2023-11-29 12:06 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-11-29 20:38 ` Barry Song
2024-01-18 11:10 ` [PATCH RFC 0/6] mm: support large folios swap-in Barry Song
2024-01-18 11:10 ` [PATCH RFC 1/6] arm64: mm: swap: support THP_SWAP on hardware with MTE Barry Song
2024-01-26 23:14 ` Chris Li
2024-02-26 2:59 ` Barry Song
2024-01-18 11:10 ` [PATCH RFC 2/6] mm: swap: introduce swap_nr_free() for batched swap_free() Barry Song
2024-01-26 23:17 ` Chris Li
2024-02-26 4:47 ` Barry Song
2024-01-18 11:10 ` [PATCH RFC 3/6] mm: swap: make should_try_to_free_swap() support large-folio Barry Song
2024-01-26 23:22 ` Chris Li
2024-01-18 11:10 ` [PATCH RFC 4/6] mm: support large folios swapin as a whole Barry Song
2024-01-27 19:53 ` Chris Li
2024-02-26 7:29 ` Barry Song
2024-01-27 20:06 ` Chris Li
2024-02-26 7:31 ` Barry Song
2024-01-18 11:10 ` [PATCH RFC 5/6] mm: rmap: weaken the WARN_ON in __folio_add_anon_rmap() Barry Song
2024-01-18 11:54 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-01-23 6:49 ` Barry Song
2024-01-29 3:25 ` Chris Li
2024-01-29 10:06 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-01-29 16:31 ` Chris Li
2024-02-26 5:05 ` Barry Song
2024-04-06 23:27 ` Barry Song
2024-01-27 23:41 ` Chris Li
2024-01-18 11:10 ` [PATCH RFC 6/6] mm: madvise: don't split mTHP for MADV_PAGEOUT Barry Song
2024-01-29 2:15 ` Chris Li
2024-02-26 6:39 ` Barry Song
2024-02-27 12:22 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-27 22:39 ` Barry Song
2024-02-27 14:40 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-27 18:57 ` Barry Song
2024-02-28 3:49 ` Barry Song
2024-01-18 15:25 ` [PATCH RFC 0/6] mm: support large folios swap-in Ryan Roberts
2024-01-18 23:54 ` Barry Song
2024-01-19 13:25 ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-27 14:27 ` Barry Song
2024-01-29 9:05 ` Huang, Ying
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